I must state for the record that I too have contributed to the word of mouth
advertising for this company.  How valuable is that to a company and can it
be quantified?

When I first ventured into the Open Source world several years ago, I soon
abandoned corporate style marketed products for a residential gateway simply
because I had limited control over what went out to the net and no efficient
logging mechanism as many of you have noted don't work that well.  

I turned to Linux.  As most of us... we searched for solutions like snort to
add to our box and learned how to create effective chains for iptables and
somehow STUMBLED across a good review of SNF (then MNF and then MNF2 beta)
and discovered someone had put it all together for simplicity while still
giving you complete control.  When friends and small business owners
questioned me for a good firewall/router when they too became perturbed with
the crap that was marketed to them, I quickly advertised what I had
discovered to make things easy yet effective too.  Guess what... at least 3
copies of MNF was purchased due to my word of mouth and I'm aware of those 3
entities who purchased MNF always talking proudly of you're product.  How
many more have purchased it due to their word of mouth?

The point being this:  You probably pursued making such a product when you
too realized potential for out-doing the corporate products and thus created
SNF and MNF.  How long will it take for guys like me to discover a new
product that was created to outdo mnf2?  

MNF has been a great product and I hope with all sincerity I can continue to
use it freely.  However, guys like me can't ignore the fact that there are a
number of free solutions out there to use.  Hold up the spirit of Open
Source, and Open Source will hold you up.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil
Groschwitz
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:10 AM
To: security-firewall@mandrivalinux.org
Subject: Re: [Security Firewall] firewall

Bye and thanks!

I started my linux journey with SNF then MNF, and joined the
mandrakeclub to support it (and mandrake in general since they were
bankrupt at the time.)  I moved my w2k pc's to mdk shortly thereafter.

I've been looking for a replacement for mnf for a long time because of
the uncertainity.  My needs are for my home network - this is for me a
hobby.  I decided on ipcop.  (Before taking down MNF to install ipcop,
it had an uptime of 173 days.  Would have been longer if not for power
outages.)

Thanks everyone for the support over the years and for the great work
with SNF and MNF (including the Amaury how-to's!)

Phil







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