well said! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ
From: Jules Stevenson
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:12 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
I completely agree with this Marc. There is so much negative sentiment in this
thread that I'd be surprised if AD is still listening. Some of the folks there
are probably pretty proud to work for them and have a genuine interest in Soft,
so this thread is painful reading. I don't agree with the marketing of soft at
all, but I do still 'evangelize' the product, and will continue to do so until
there is something which for us as a studio works better (we jumped from Maya
to Soft about 5 years ago and haven't looked back since).
If AD were to sink this beautiful ship then so be it. Until that point for the
good of my sanity, my crew and my studio, I will continue to push the usage of
Softimage, and ignore a small graphic that is very hard to find (I'm on the
marketing lists for Max, Maya and Soft, and pretty much every other bit of AD
spam plus my reseller) and never personally received or saw it.
There is little point in begrudging the AD employees that are doing what they
can do with what resources they have to keep soft out there - these are the
guys that are 'on our side'. Stating that the software is EOL is also massively
counter-productive, it's a lovely juicy soundbite to throw around the office.
Shit sticks, even if it's unfounded.
The proof of commitment (or not) will be seen in the next release.
Cheers,
Jules
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Marc Brinkley <marc.brink...@microsoft.com>
wrote:
So um, i just thinking that if I were ADSK and was listening to this
conversation
My existing customers of the software believe the software is EOL
My existing customers of the software are telling other customers not to
bother instead of evangelizing the software.
My customers decide not to believe me when i say we are continuing to develop
the software even when several members of team directly say it.
If I were in their shoes, what do you suppose I would be thinking. Seems like
a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.
Not directed to anyone specifically. But if we dont believe they why should
they.
All things will end eventually, sure, and I am tried of fighting an up hill
battle, sure. But until I get a letter specifically stating EOL and here are my
side grade (or ahem, down grade) options to other software, I will keep on
using it.
:D
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From: Rob Chapman
Sent: 9/12/2012 1:13 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
So Maurice,
A brave effort with your rhetoric but sadly the results you achieved are
letting you down. It is exactly what we did not expect or were used to before
you are your crew took it upon yourselves to remarket Softimage within the
given framework of M&E apps at AD. Do you think what you have done has
improved things for the existing Softimage user base? can you account for how
Softimage has less penetration now in the market as a fully featured
Application to base an entire pipeline off** and has much less 'perceived'
value than before you began your current campaign?
bravo! didnt you do well!? I believe you have failed quite miserably at your
job and should most definitely be more respectful than 'be happy with possible
increased sales and deal with it' to those whose value as professionals within
this industry are greatly diminished than they were 4 years ago. Are you at
all surprised that those you have sacrificed to the greater good that is Maya
don't want any further business with Autodesk?
**where I work the studio has many hundreds of commercials,3 short movies
with countless awards and one was bafta nominated this year - all made with
this measly particle plugin and not a single Maya or Max in sight.
On 12 September 2012 20:41, Maurice Patel <maurice.pa...@autodesk.com> wrote:
Well, we have said that we are committed to developing and marketing
Softimage. It might not be exactly in the way you expect but that commitment
has been explicitly stated by myself and others. The discussion has been about
our tactics and why we do things the way we do.
Maurice Patel
Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Daniel H
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:59 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: In case you missed it..
Re: "We are very well aware and I and my team work hard to do the most we
can with the resources we have." - Maurice Patel
Seriously Maurice... you have any-time access to "freely" speak directly to
the main vein of the SI community. Does it cost AD anything to make a simple
text statement of confidence on a list, blog, or forum? Is Autodesk really
committed to the future and continuing development of Softimage? Is Softimage
just being used as acquired tech to be robbed from? It's ok if it's the later,
although we won't transition over to Maya, we'll just counter by transitioning
to Houdini.
Do you really want my continued business Maurice? Does Autodesk really want
to keep my business? Should we just get it over with and start giving our
hard-earned money to SideFX? 3D software isn't cheap ya know. What would you
like us to do? Where's a free statement or two of "confidence" to keep us
investing in Softimage?
Daniel
VFXM
