Hi again Nicolas. I haven't had the chance to test on a fast desktop yet, was running the suit off of a Surface Pro 3 for an overseas job I just had.
There was some slight delay in dealing with MVN studio and Motionbuilder realtime. Again, I want to test with the vive on a higher end machine to be able to truly comment. I don't think the latency was as bad as what I saw in your video, bit it was still there. I will be back at work in the next couple of weeks and do some more tests then. Will post back in this thread. One thing I like with the XSens, is how quick it is to setup. Doesn't lose calibration easily, unless there is significant magnetic interference. There is a debug mode where you can find the 'zones' where the tracking breaks down. The multi level feature is one of the best features of the XSens suit. I've been able to do climb three level homes with the laptop in the basement, and still get exceptional tracking. Using the terrain around us is such a big plus with these kinds of suits. Adam On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Adam! > > Based on your tests with the Xsens suit, is the streaming of the mocap > data almost realtime or there is a delay similar to the one you see in my > video? > I know that they work using similar IMU-based sensors, but since the price > difference between them is alsmot 1 to 10 I was thinking to do the upgrade > in a couple of months, but if I have the same delay I'll stick with the one > I own :) > > 2016-08-04 23:49 GMT+02:00 Adam Sale <adamfs...@gmail.com>: > >> That's very cool, Nicolas. We've been building up our hardware assets for >> just this kind of thing. I'm excited to test out Xsens and the Vive with >> Unity or Unreal. Thanks for sharing! >> >> Adam >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Fabricio Chamon <xsiml...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> ok thanks a lot for the deep explanation Nicolas.. All I need is a quick >>> way to get acceptable mocap results to feed into my own crowd workflow. >>> >From your description it seems that after some trial and error one is able >>> to get it going and produce some decent animations. For the price maybe >>> it's worth a try, >>> thanks again. >>> >>> 2016-08-04 11:19 GMT-03:00 Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi Fabricio, >>>> >>>> If you take a look at the forum there are quite a lot of people >>>> complaining about lots of stuff, but it's also true that with 1500$ you >>>> won't get a super-professional product, even if I can say that the money I >>>> spent were well spent ( I backed the kickstarter campaign and got 2 of them >>>> for a total of 1000$ ) >>>> >>>> In general the suit works pretty good and I have been working with it >>>> since January...in order to speed up the recording and to put the animation >>>> onto a character I created my own pipeline which right now allows me to >>>> record and process the animations in very short time. >>>> >>>> The time consuming part is at the beginning when you're start testing >>>> the entire setup ( lots of things can go wrong and will probably go wrong ) >>>> The calibration itself ( if followed properly ) gives good results, but >>>> the actual "virtual puppet" which is rapresented isn't a 1:1 copy of you, >>>> since you can choose only the height of the character, nothing else. >>>> Since it's a IMU based mocap suit there are issues when you try to clap >>>> or you two-hand a sword for example, but this is something which can be >>>> easily adjusted later inside Maya/MoBu. >>>> >>>> You can use two methods to record animation: via USB or via Wifi >>>> USB works every time and it takes 1 second to be connected, while Wifi >>>> connection is ( most of the time ) completely random, so sometimes you're >>>> connected in 10 seconds while sometimes it takes up to 5 minutes...the >>>> developers themself are not sure why this is happening, which is great :D >>>> >>>> Once you're connected the only thing you need to take care of is to be >>>> away from magnetic source ( mobile phones, pc, and so on ). >>>> The software used to record the animation allows for some tweaking ( >>>> hips fixed in place, smoothing and so on ) and in general it works quite >>>> good, also considering that there are dedicated plugins for UE4, Unity, >>>> Motion Builder and iClone. >>>> Since January the sensors got magnetized last week, but that happended >>>> because I constantly worked with my mobile phone in my hands or very close >>>> to them, so I'm experiencing some drifting while recording...to demagnetize >>>> you have to re-calibrate the sensors, which is a bit time consuming, but in >>>> 20 minutes you're done. >>>> >>>> Overall I think that 1500$ for this suit are worthed if you don't need >>>> a super-high mocap suit, this is a very good solution for hobbyst but also >>>> for those who wants to create their own animation rather then paying >>>> someone else and probably giving away the amount of 4 suits. >>>> The tech issues are there, but it also depends on your setup. >>>> With my tower pc the wifi streaming works great, with my laptop the >>>> suit is not recognized, so if I need to record long animations in a large >>>> space I need to move my tower pc ( and everything else ) outside, which is >>>> a bit annoying but doable. >>>> >>>> Nicolas >>>> >>>> 2016-08-04 15:48 GMT+02:00 Fabricio Chamon <xsiml...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> Hey Nicolas, very nice! I'm particularly interested in the mocap suit. >>>>> Does it work well? How is the setup/calibration time? Any pros/cons? I can >>>>> see in the perception neuron website that you have to be extremely >>>>> carefull >>>>> with your calibration or the system really will not work good enough. How >>>>> is your experience with that? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing, nice experiment! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Em quinta-feira, 4 de agosto de 2016, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>> escreveu: >>>>> >>>>>> Yep, I couldn't find a good enough sword so I put that in :D >>>>>> >>>>>> Possibly during the weekend I'll updated the scene with a multi-level >>>>>> environment ( which helps a lot with the ridiculous restriction on >>>>>> mobile ) >>>>>> and maybe turn it into a game, but I doubt it ( single person development >>>>>> with zero programming knowledge ), but I'm curious to see how other >>>>>> people >>>>>> will use this setup >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-08-04 13:00 GMT+02:00 Sebastien Sterling < >>>>>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Is that Artoria's sword :P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 August 2016 at 12:39, Olivier Jeannel <facialdel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Super ! Please keep us posted, very inspirating ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Enter Reality <3dv...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just want to share one of the projects I'm developing using the >>>>>>>>> GearVR and a mocap suit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In short I'm walking inside a VR environment using the mocap suit >>>>>>>>> to walk around and interact with the environment >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> GearVR Test Demo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4IOA9VjxKc> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and the Noitom Perception >>>>>>>>> Neuron Suit, and all the data is sent to the smartphone via Wifi...a >>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>> laggy, but considenring the setup I'm quite satisfied by the results. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've shared the entire project on the UE4 forum >>>>>>>>> <https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?119165-Perception-Neuron-Dark-Souls(ish)-Test-Demo-Full-Body-VR-(-Downloadable-project!-)> >>>>>>>>> if someone want to test the scene >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The video shows just a very simple environment, but future updates >>>>>>>>> will include more content and features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not planning to focus on games using this setup, but I guess >>>>>>>>> that this is a good way to show everyone what I'm doing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nicolas Esposito >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.aut >>>>>>> odesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ >>>> Softimage Mailing List. >>>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> Softimage Mailing List. >>> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >>> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >>> >> >> >> ------ >> Softimage Mailing List. >> To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com >> with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >> > > > ------ > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. >
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