I just red the beginning of your post, dropping this for the sake of
information :
For your material problem.
Entagma tutorial
https://vimeo.com/205629784
It shoes a cristal with glass and air shader in the H16. If that helps...

2017-03-01 19:59 GMT+01:00 gareth bell <garethb...@outlook.com>:

> In a previous project where I had to force fluids into a specific shape I
> ended up using POPs over FLIP - it's got a little fewer 'liquid' qualities
> but it is far more directable.
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> I've got to do a shot where four standing crayola crayons quickly melt in
> a non-newtonian shapes then reform into four bottles.
> I have melty crayons, and I thought I would use the Suction force to bring
> them back to the bottles, I'm having problems with have the melted forms
> look nice/directable. The whole shot is 5 secs, so 3 of actual action.
> Am I mad to have taken this on?
>
> On 1 March 2017 at 17:53, Andi Farhall <hack...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> the side fx forums and od force are very friendly places, i've asked
>> complete beginner questions there...
>>
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>> I'm a bit concerned about how much I've taken on, is any willing to do
>> some mentoring/consulting, for money of course, I just dont want to look
>> like the noob I am to this new client.
>>
>> On 1 March 2017 at 17:46, Jonathan Moore <jonathan.moo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies Andy (Nicholas) I hadn't seen you'd already replied with the
>>> answer.
>>>
>>> On 1 March 2017 at 17:41, Andi Farhall <hack...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i've been following along to some paid tutorials,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this set might help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rohandalvi.net/textures/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Yes, scary indeed.
>>>> Are there and sample scenes around I can look at? I couldn't see any.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 March 2017 at 17:25, Andi Farhall <hack...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i think the idea is you can assign any part of a network to an object
>>>>> so you can drag the principled shader from /mat onto an object or you can
>>>>> dive inside and and assign stuff from inside instead. It's one big network
>>>>> where multiple shader can be joined up at different levels (i think)....
>>>>> The material palette seems slightly redundant to me so far, You can get 
>>>>> the
>>>>> the internals of the principled shader by right clicking and selecting
>>>>> allow editing of contents (but then it gets scary)
>>>>>
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>>>>> *Sent:* 01 March 2017 17:16:36
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>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Am I being an idiot, probably
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a bit confused about the whole material Palette thing. If I have
>>>>> two shaders, say a glass and a liquid, if I go into either of the Disney
>>>>> castle icon shaders they are both on each other. And is the principled
>>>>> shader more "black boxed" now, and I should do all layering in this top
>>>>> level?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 March 2017 at 17:12, Andi Farhall <hack...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> fortune favours the bold Lawrence!
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *Sent:* 01 March 2017 17:10:42
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>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Am I being an idiot, probably
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, I think, I've got in a mess, it's working sort of, but I've been
>>>>>> ad libbing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 March 2017 at 17:08, Andy Nicholas <a...@andynicholas.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all changed in v16. You need to go to the new /mat context
>>>>>>> instead of /shop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/03/2017 16:39, Laurence Dodd wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a Houdini question, I feel too stupid to ask on the Houdini
>>>>>>> forum.
>>>>>>> I am just trying to set up a layered shader in Mantra, if I look at
>>>>>>> this tutorial
>>>>>>> https://www.sidefx.com/tutorials/curvature-vop/
>>>>>>> it looks so easy, but when I go to SHOP as she does I get no option
>>>>>>> for principled shader, I have to use a material Shader builder node, 
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> all different, and doesn't work nearly as well.
>>>>>>> My main problem is that the shader puts my texture one to each poly,
>>>>>>> it does have UV's.
>>>>>>> Arrgh this is taking me too long.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am I missing something basic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone
>>>>>>>
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