As has been said by others. This is not an FDC and would result in monitoring issues within the building. What they are looking for is a wall hydrant which needs to be connected to the lead-in upstream of any building suppression systems.
Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET** \ Burns & McDonnell Associate Fire Protection Engineer O 612-900-3755 \ M 763-688-4045 \ F 952-229-2923 rhin...@burnsmcd.com<mailto:rhin...@burnsmcd.com> \ burnsmcd.com<http://www.burnsmcd.com/> 8201 Norman Center Drive, Suite 500 \ Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 55437 *Registered in: AK, LA, MD, MN, PA, TX, & UT **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout From: Brian Harris <bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 1:29 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Ryan- Yes. They want to draw water from inside the building FP system to use in fore hoses for outside the building. "It's cheaper than adding a hydrant...." Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: Hinson, Ryan <rhin...@burnsmcd.com<mailto:rhin...@burnsmcd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:25 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? FDC...as in injection into the system on the back side in the absence of fire hydrants nearby doesn't make sense to me. Do you mean to draw water off the FW piping in the building to serve portable equipment for the parking lot storage? Ryan L. Hinson, PE*, SET** \ Burns & McDonnell Associate Fire Protection Engineer O 612-900-3755 \ M 763-688-4045 \ F 952-229-2923 rhin...@burnsmcd.com<mailto:rhin...@burnsmcd.com> \ burnsmcd.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.burnsmcd.com%2f&c=E,1,7VFuIwuxPjOttrVgynPolVOTgN3v6mT-V6g87jq-Q2EvwrY7AAFdS1ToF0kt5EBG9OYlkVkYa2frZoY5Yh2qLTkFn5Iw7WH7j4mnGlxT9GuOLxsUbhhdyw,,&typo=1> 8201 Norman Center Drive, Suite 500 \ Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 55437 *Registered in: AK, LA, MD, MN, PA, TX, & UT **NICET IV - Water-Based Systems Layout From: matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> <matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 1:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Nope. Exterior fire operations are as or more important than internal. Seen this many times for different applications. R/ Matt Please rate our customer service<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fsurvey.medallia.com%2f%3femailsignature%26fc%3d3539%26bg%3dFire%2520and%2520Fabrication&c=E,1,srwSq8YdVmazH4zsAgasid0nRVIUZrVEzSqa9212B7ULLYAOtDti9oRFL0FjT0h5WKOorJZ6qJIa5p6Gp_6TcG1lKeSP72YRuaYIZwVkZ_cXaQPdrmPfCLoFFjZa&typo=1> Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, CET Engineering Designer IV FERGUSON FIRE DESIGN, LLC A Wholly Owned Subsidiary of Ferguson Fire & Fabrication, LLC 401 N 5th Street Suite 448 Wausau, WI 54403 C: 307-236-8249 matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> www.FergusonFire.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.fergusonfire.com%2f&c=E,1,t2kkU6GiN48ipjo2cUguayf2olg-9ggZNBHGg4GIUPquGYTwa57Bsl6HIod0TTUnlD6KAmZOf15WFvAedioRCYUOHkT_leEbTXykFA5lKZCQPB2yTNYoJIyI&typo=1> From: Brian Harris <bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com<mailto:bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:19 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? This is a first. We recently did a sprinkler system for a 2-story storage building. The owner is now putting storage containers in the back parking lot and the AHJ wants him to add a 2nd FDC on the back of the building, there's already one on the front, and use it to "supply" fire hoses if there's a fire outside since there's not a hydrant in the back.... Tell me I'm crazy. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssystemsinc.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fbvssystemsinc.com%2f&c=E,1,KvUcJKwR1-VMeJ08pas56fB1FbmRf44mocNWawMpPEDp7swm7LB7aN-PQwe7ORb0mBUyEoXrzXuPAFliI6m20_hR6VaomNnzFc--WU3fuFARFdI,&typo=1> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935
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