Thanks! Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
From: Travis Mack <t.m...@mepcad.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:44 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Well, it is a connection point for the fire department. So technically it is an FDC. However, you just need to understand that he wants to be able to draft water from that connection. So, you will need to give him an outlet. If you google "fire protection wall hydrant" you should be able to find plenty of images of what you need. Be sure to check what flows and pressures the AHJ wants so you can calculate to provide that. As Zach stated, many times they are treated as just a manual standpipe. Others, in my experience, have treated them as hydrants and we had to provide site fire flow demands. Travis Mack, SET M.E.P.CAD | 181 N. Arroyo Grande Blvd. #105 I Henderson, NV 89074 www.mepcad.com<http://www.mepcad.com/> | m: 480.547.9348 AutoSPRINK | AutoSPRINK FAB | AutoSPRINK RVT | AlarmCAD From: Brian Harris <bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com<mailto:bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 11:37 AM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Matt- I'm just regurgitating what the AHJ is saying. I think that's where the confusion is coming from. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> <matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:32 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? I think you are saying FDC, what I heard from the description is wall hydrant. R/ Matt Please rate our customer service<https://survey.medallia.com/?emailsignature&fc=3539&bg=Fire%20and%20Fabrication> Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, CET Engineering Designer IV FERGUSON FIRE DESIGN, LLC A Wholly Owned Subsidiary of Ferguson Fire & Fabrication, LLC 401 N 5th Street Suite 448 Wausau, WI 54403 C: 307-236-8249 matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> www.FergusonFire.com<http://www.fergusonfire.com/> From: Brian Harris <bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com<mailto:bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:27 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers <sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org>> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Matt- So your saying it's ok to do? There's (2) systems fed off the front Riser so the FDC ties in there. What do you do for the "extra" FDC? Tie it off the back Main? Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssytemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> From: matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> <matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:22 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? Nope. Exterior fire operations are as or more important than internal. Seen this many times for different applications. R/ Matt Please rate our customer service<https://survey.medallia.com/?emailsignature&fc=3539&bg=Fire%20and%20Fabrication> Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP, CET Engineering Designer IV FERGUSON FIRE DESIGN, LLC A Wholly Owned Subsidiary of Ferguson Fire & Fabrication, LLC 401 N 5th Street Suite 448 Wausau, WI 54403 C: 307-236-8249 matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> www.FergusonFire.com<http://www.fergusonfire.com/> From: Brian Harris <bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com<mailto:bhar...@bvssystemsinc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:19 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org<mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] 2nd FDC Instead of a Hydrant ??? This is a first. We recently did a sprinkler system for a 2-story storage building. The owner is now putting storage containers in the back parking lot and the AHJ wants him to add a 2nd FDC on the back of the building, there's already one on the front, and use it to "supply" fire hoses if there's a fire outside since there's not a hydrant in the back.... Tell me I'm crazy. Brian Harris, CET BVS Systems Inc. bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> Phone: 704.896.9989 Fax: 704.896.1935
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