Dwight,
That is pretty much what I have said. I am proposing adding a hose valve in a common area and submit to the AHJ to add this arrangement in their fire planning. From a practical standpoint, the FD would fight a fire in the main occupied areas from the hydrant across the street. If you saw the building, you would get it. BTW, did you work for FM Boston Office many decades ago? > > On Mar 28, 2024 at 10:41 AM, <Dwight Havens (mailto:dhavensh...@yahoo.com)> > wrote: > > > > > > > Todd, > > > > As a retired AHJ, my opinion would be that you do not need the hose valves on > the first-floor standpipe risers for fighting a fire on the first floor, > since access to the first floor is not gained through the stairwells. > > > > However, you'd need to pass that by the fire chief of the department > responsible for providing that service, and the permitting authority for the > installation for approval. One of the last things that you want to do is > create a condition that is not expected by the fire department, so such an > arrangement needs to be incorporated into the building preplan. > > > > As a firefighter, I would expect that hose outlet to be there (on the first > floor in the stairwell). We use it for fighting fires on the second floor, > and as an alternate method of supplying the standpipes if for some reason the > fire department connection is dysfunctional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a small 4 story building where we are required to install a > standpipe (as well as a full 13 sprinkler system). The first floor consists > of a conference area, office space and various mechanical and storage rooms. > The conference space and office area have direct access to the outside, but > there is no communicating space between them. The 2 stairways lead to an > outside access only. The elevator lobby has an outside door but does not > connect to the stairways or conference and office spaces. The total footprint > of the building is less than 3000 sqft. > > > > Where do you put the hose valve on the 1st floor? > > > > Todd G Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > Stonington, CT > > 860-535-2080 (ofc) > > 860-554-7054 (fax) > > 860-608-4559 (cell) > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org > (mailto:sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org) > _________________________________________________________ SprinklerForum > mailing list: > https://lists.firesprinkler.org/list/sprinklerforum.lists.firesprinkler.org > To unsubscribe send an email to sprinklerforum-le...@lists.firesprinkler.org >
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