<x-charset ISO-8859-1>Greg, The "black and white or color film" was the punchline of the "joke." The real heart of the matter is the pondering of not only the morality of the potential rescuer but the practices of the person in peril and how those practices give cause for such a choice to exist in the first place.
Sounds as if you need to bury that guilt instead of letting it rule you any longer. No point in crying over spilled lager any longer than a sincere lament. As for born again? Done there. Been that. Found out that I was born right the first time and that the applied morality of the "church" was in contradiction to the written word. Seems that most "christians" can't discern that there is no difference between putting a bullet in someone's brain and knowingly poisoning their drinking water with a multi-million dollar paper mill or PCBs or mercury or any other that in turn slowly kills others. They can't fathom how economic policies that pay for their Sunday go to meetin' clothes and high living can steal food out of the mouths and healthcare out of the communities of distant peoples. Hell..., forget distant. Just look across any American town or city. And if it's not a pulp mill or the like, it's an insurance company, pharmaceutical company or any other grossly obese and/or immorally opportunistic human activity. Slow death vs fast death. None of them could see that jobs, tax base and freedom as defined by corporatism and capitalism don't justify murder. So no. Much as Hakan pointed out, I see little difference between a dictator and a facilitator who circumvents or eradicates policies that erode and outright destroy human life, all the while hiding behind a religious veil. To hell with the "we're all fallible human beings" crap as a buffer and excuse. We're all human. But we're all to be responsible for what we know. Bush is a willing participant in the devastation that he facilitates and could care less - or at least believes that it's okay as he'll supposedly be forgiven for it. A lot of good his being forgiven is going to do those people who's lives are destroyed in the process of his folly. In any event, his brand of religion as exercised in his position makes him a danger to all those who exist at present and have yet to exist - Buddhist, Trappist, Amish, Baptist, Agnostic and Anarchist alike - which is in itself an indictment every time he wraps himself in the "right to life" flag. Simply put? He's a hippocrit, a fraud and a con who does not serve the best interests of any people other than those who are as care-less as he. That's not an opinion. That's the conviction of hundreds of millions, among which hundreds if not thousands are theologians. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Moral Dilemma... > It's actually very simple. > > I am Christian enough to honestly believe that I would at least try to save everyone, BUT, I know that I am human enough to have my doubts, about saving a few people. > > Examples: > > My ex brother-in-law, that abused my sister. > A few people that have stabbed me in the back / ripped me off, after I have helped them. > > There is my moral dilemma, I know that I should forgive and help them, but, I don't know if I actually would, and that bothers the heck out of me. You can laugh if you want ( actually it appears you did ), but, it's not easy or fun going through life, knowing that you could have made the difference, but, didn't. I know it from personal experience, that it is not the least bit funny. > > So all the crap about the choice about color or black and white film is nothing but fecal matter, that is not even fit for use as fertilizer. > > Greg H. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Appal Energy > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 21:30 > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Moral Dilemma... > > > Greg, > > > most anyone else. > > ??? That's telling. Care to elaborate on the qualifiers? > > :-) ... Chuckle, chuckle...smurf....snort........ > > I believe a good number have already placed Shrub a little lower on the food > chain than perhaps you would. I'm just curious as to how low of a piece of > goat scrod someone would have to be to qualify for lack of assistance. > > Todd Swearingen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Moral Dilemma... > > > > Neither, I would try and save him, just like I would most anyone else. > > > > Greg H. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 19:11 > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Moral Dilemma... > > > > > > So..... > > COLOR OR BLACK & WHITE? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! 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