Hi Todd >Keith, > >Not to worry. The blueprint is in the offing. > >As there is but a slight that one being can offer, best to put data in a >public place and let the fish play. > >Todd Swearingen >Appal Energy
:-) Thankyou! What a sensible person. I think Ben and others might consider some more of your advice: >The easiest and least expensive way for volumes of 15-20 gallon >batches would be steel drum WVO collector/separator, a steel drum >reactor, with reclaimed motors and stirring attachments "duct taped" >together. > >Methoxide mixed in a 5 gallon HDPE carboy. A glycerin drain on the >reactor drum. Wash in a 55 gallon drum. Either an emersion heater at >the bottom of the reactor and WVO collector or plumb in a >recirculating pump from your household H20 tank. A little >submersible pump like those at Surplus Center >http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2003050414093431&catname=wat >er&qty =1&item=2-1225 can be fitted with fluid tight conduit to the >electrical inlet and flexible hose to the pump ports, making it >transferable from one application to another, pumping glycerin, >water or biodiesel. This way you can get away with only one pump, >rather than having a pump for each individual tank. > >Such a system would get you through years of personal use with the >least amount of headache and the least amount of cost. If you ever >upgraded, you'd just expand on the system as you've made it work for >yourself. > >Can't speak personally as to the viability of WVO in an oil burner >without some modification to pump and/or nozzle. Alt Fuels folks >could better inform you. I do know that WVO and SVO burns perfectly >well in the types of furnaces and boilers that use used hydraulic, >transmission and motor oil. These units used compressed air to force >greater amounts of oxygen into the combustion chamber. > >Also, biodiesel burns perfectly well in standard fuel oil furnaces >with no need for any modification whatsoever. > >Todd Swearingen As well as these: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Mike Pelly's new processor "Foolproof" method processors The touchless processor Continuous reactors Biodiesel technology Simon's guide to building a biodiesel mixer Ian's vacuum biodiesel processor Chuck Ranum's biodiesel processor How to make a cone-bottomed processor Mike Pelly's new processor has just about reached production stage now, very impressive. I'll be posting more pictures and details in the next day or so. Well worth considering - well, if you're going to buy something, buy this one. Regards Keith >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:23 PM >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System... > > > > Hi Ben, Todd > > > > Just to say... > > > > >Feel free to contact us if this sounds like it's your cup of tea. > > > > Be nice if any such discussions happened on-list as far as possible, > > valuable I think, and then all could share (as well as the archives). > > > > regards > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > >Ben, > > > > > >If you're intending to use grease from your dining halls, I imagine that > > >you're going to have more than 1,000 gallons annually, unless you are a > > >whoppingly miniscule college. Might I suggest that you abandon the idea >of > > >"not for profit" and opt instead for "reasonable rate of return?" You >could > > >let your fuel go for a little over $1.00 US and at least provide some > > >operating capital and further your goals elsewhere, all the while your > > >buyers would be getting a stand up deal. > > > > > >Second, you might care to consider starting the biodiesel immediately and > > >using it as a small money engine, rather than wating interminabley for >any > > >form of grant, especially in light of the fact that much grant money is >also > > >tax payer money. You would be saving your university a cumulative >disposal > > >fee, providing less expensive fuel for farmers and perhaps those who can > > >least afford the high cost of winter heating oil, as well as moving your > > >overall goal a little closer with each batch processed - all without as >much > > >reliance on grant money. > > > > > >If frugal, you could set up a top-rate batch facility out of the >operating > > >fund of one of your environmental groups, one that could quite easily > > >process several hundred gallons daily. > > > > > >We're in the process of bolting together exactly such a facility in > > >Southeast Ohio, expecting it to be fully operational by mid-June. The > > >"blueprint" isn't anything grand, nor is the system all that expensive, >all > > >the while accomodating every aspect of the waste stream, something that >is > > >not so frequently done on the small scale. > > > > > >Feel free to contact us if this sounds like it's your cup of tea. > > > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Ben Shuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:39 AM > > >Subject: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System... > > > > > > > > > > Hello all.... > > > > > > > > I'm sure this question will be quite similar to other questions that >have > > > > been answered many times in the past, but i'm new and don't hurt me ;) > > > > > > > > The eastern WV college which I attend is the owner of a 200 acre farm > > >which > > > > is currently seeing little use. There is an initiative to use this > > >availible > > > > land in ways which would be beneficial to the community both >educationally > > > > and practically. Current plans, assuming grant funding could be >found, is > > > > to convert the entire farm into an example of what is possible > > > > agricultrually using green alternitives. This includes converting the > > >1837 > > > > farm house and barns to solar power, installing composting toilets, > > > > establishing an organic community farm, composting all vegetable >matter > > >from > > > > campus, maintaining a heritige vegitable garden and orchard, as well >as a > > > > working examples of uses of alternitive fuels, mainly bio-diesel. > > > > > > > > As part of this latter goal, we would like for all the equipment to be > > >using > > > > fuel from processed waste vegetible oil from the dinning halls on >campus > > > > (expanding to other local sources as needed). Since we would already >be > > > > processing the oil and probably making more fuel than needed, we would > > >like > > > > to make the excess availible to the community on a non-profit basis. > > > > > > > > If there is a resource availible which would detail how to make (or > > > > purchase) a system which could process a moderate amount of fuel > > >(somewhere > > > > above 1000 Gal annually), please let me know. With this information, >we > > > > could start finding sources of funding for this aspect of the project. > > > > > > > > If you might know of any locations which might be willing to supply a > > >grant > > > > to fund some part of this project (be it solar, biodiesel, composting, > > > > capital, etc), that would also be appriciated. Thank you for your > > > > assistance. > > > > > > > > Ben Shuman ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! 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