Ooooops! I have not had a gasoline car for at least 20 years and my first diesel 35 years ago. Maybe US can ship the diesel from the coal to Europe, it looks like they do not need it (cheap of course, to follow the energy purchasing evaluations they had for a long time). Maybe it should be said "Saved, except for the carbon and diesel thing".
Hakan At 01:20 26/04/2006, you wrote: >We used to buy diesel cars in the US, but they were never too popular. > >Hakan Falk wrote: > > >LOL! > > > >US have huge amounts of coal, one third of known world reserves. Now > >it is only left to get the Americans to buy diesel vehicles 1% of > >current autos, to levels like Europes 50% of current vehicles. So > >instead of dependance of foreign oil, US will be dependent of foreign > >autos, but it is a large improvement of the situation anyway. Diesel > >engines 30% more efficient with smaller autos 50% more efficient and > >US will be at the level of Europeans. By the way, where is the > >"freedom cars"? On the streets of Europe!!!!! After this, US maybe > >even discover biodiesel. > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 23:10 25/04/2006, you wrote: > > > > > >>WE ARE SAVED! WELL EXCEPT FOR THE CARBON THING.......... > >> > >><http://www.technologyreview.com/BizTech/wtr_16713,296,p1.html>htt > p://www.technologyreview.com/BizTech/wtr_16713,296,p1.html > >> > >>That's sarcasm folks....... > >> > >>Joe > >> > >> > >> > >>Mike Weaver wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Redler, you never like my ideas. You've made me cry. Now how do you > >>>feel? *snif* > >>> > >>>Ok I can't leave well enough alone. A good friend who follows peak oil > >>>pretty closely sent me this. I think it's optimistic at best and pretty > >>>delusional at worst. How long will it take (and cost) to get all this > >>>whiz bang stuff going? There's no doubt in my mind the petro economy > >>>is doomed. Now, if we had any sense we'd wean ourselves NOW, while we > >>>can, use whatever technology may work to do it and move to the next > >>>phase. Even in the best case scenario the price of oil is going to > >>>continue to climb and climb. > >>> > >>>They also make the sweeping statement that "the World is not about to > >>>run out of oil". The world WILL NEVER run out of oil. There just WON'T > >>>BE ENOUGH for everyone to go as we are. I'm sure there will alwasy be a > >>>trickle ot two... > >>> > >>>Weaver > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Michael Redler wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Schizophrenic/Procrastinating/Clueless economists: > >>>> > >>>>They concede to: > >>>> > >>>>The rising costs of oil exploration > >>>>The eminent peak and subsequent end to oil as a main source of fuel > >>>>The fact that for every three barrels used there is only one barrel of > >>>>newly discovered oil to replenish it. > >>>> > >>>>At the same time they seem to feel that new technology and techniques > >>>>in exploration and the resulting increase in yield allows you to delay > >>>>the peak. > >>>> > >>>>They also make the sweeping statement that "the World is not about to > >>>>run out of oil". > >>>> > >>>>What does "about" mean and when will they have the foresight to see > >>>>the value of doing something sooner rather than later? More > >>>>importantly, who is "the World" and when are they going to count > >>>>countries (i.e. Iraq) who are slowly losing control of their oil. > >>>> > >>>>What a bunch of crap! > >>>> > >>>>Weaver!! You couldn't leave well enough alone, could you. > >>>> > >>>>Mike > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>*/Mike Weaver <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>><http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=6823 > 506>http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=6823506 > >>>> > >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Biofuel mailing list > >>>><mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >>>> > >>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>>><http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html>http://journeytoforeve > r.org/biofuel.html > >>>> > >>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > >>>>messages): > >>>><http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/>http: > //www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Biofuel mailing list > >>><mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >>> > >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>><http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html>http://journeytoforever > .org/biofuel.html > >>> > >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives > (50,000 messages): > >>><http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/>http:/ > /www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Biofuel mailing list > >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >> > >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives > (50,000 messages): > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > >> > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Biofuel mailing list > >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
