Hello Doug >Keith, > I have to agree with you that Linux is possibly not yet for every desktop. > > I have used Linux for 6 years now. It has a tremendous support network (much >better than its commercial competitors.) There are some jobs that are handled >differently to the M$ product, & unfortunately it is a learning curve. >However, the problems I find moving from one version of M$ Word for instance, >is no more than I find learning about a Linux package!
I can imagine. But I don't use that comparison, especially not since Word 6 allegedly for Mac. Word 5 was a good program but 6 was a mess, just a half-assed makeover of the Windoze version, everybody dumped it. Learning curve yes, but it wasn't worth learning. > I personally use Mepis Linux, which I find has everything most people require >all on one CD. There are other distributions equally as good. > > The thing that has surprised me is that the myriad of Virii, Trojans, and >other malicious software that seems to attack M$ products, has not rung alarm >bells with the average consumer, and made them investigate alternatives. Sixty million infected Windows computers and the owners haven't got a clue. But then a lot of them haven't figured out how to copy and paste yet, let alone what a patch is. Windows isn't intuitive, people don't learn by doing, and I think that might have done more harm than the viruses have. >I >think this will happen. I hope you're right. >I am already seeing friends who have no interest in >computers, now firing up a live Linux distribution to browse on the web, and >read emails. This tends to minimise the risk of a virus afflicting the M$ >system living on the harddrive. > > Macs now use BSD as their operating system. BSD is similar to Linux (and to >other Unix's.) Hence my hope that they might learn to talk to each other at some stage. >Can any Mac users tell me if there are Mac viruses now? With >the security of BSD I would doubt it. Oh, there are, we keep hearing about it, only it's hard to find one. I haven't seen one for 15 years. I think if someone does actually manage to capture one and their existence is thus proved it should probably be put on the CITES list like the yeti. Mac viruses are supposed to come with MS macros, for Excel I think, maybe for Word too. Well, you can see how vague I am about it. >regards Doug (a linux die-hard) Maybe I'll be joining you one of these days. All best Keith >On Monday 12 June 2006 5:59, Keith Addison wrote: > > Wotcha Weaver > > > > >Linux. > > > > I don't think so Mike. Macs are highly developed, I think it'll be > > awhile before I could do with Linux what I do with a Mac, and as > > easily and quickly. I'm sure I'll get arguments from the Linux > > freaks, but I'm on your side, I don't think Macs and Linux are in > > competition. IMHO the Linux user base just isn't big enough yet, it's > > only a fifth as big as Macs (which is hugely outnumbered by Windoze). > > Put an interface on it that's the equal of OSX, or even OS8, with > > software to match, or with software that can migrate, and I'll > > probably do Linux too. Right now you still have to be a geek, it's > > half-baked. IMHO. Tell me again when I can just do the work fast > > without having to think about what the computer might prefer so you > > keep tripping over the damn' thing. Linux for people who don't like > > computers, and don't really want to know exactly how the fridge works > > either just as long as it keeps stuff cold without making a fuss > > about it. Speed the day. (No that doesn't mean I want a FuelMeister! > > LOL!) If I'm wrong about it, hooray, but then please confirm that > > Linux can do GoLive, or any equivalent that can handle a 1000-page > > website as fast and seamlessly. Then it'll have to get that much > > better that it's worth the move. > > > > Best > > > > Keith > > > > >Keith Addison wrote: > > > >>Uh-oh... sorry, I didn't notice the mac part in your mail... > > > >> > > > >:-) My innocence of things MS is but a small sacrifice. > > > >: > > > >>this > > > >>converter is Windoz sw. > > > >>Send me the visio file and I'll have a go at it. > > > >> > > > >>Chandan > > > > > > > >Thankyou Chandan, I'll send it right now. I'll send it to Hakan too, > > > >as he has an old version of visio itself. It's a new design for a > > > >Turk burner, but I can't follow the text description without the > > > >graphics. If it works as claimed I'll upload it. > > > > > > > >Thanks again, all best > > > > > > > >Keith > > > > > > > >>Chandan Haldar wrote: > > > >>>Keith, > > > >>> > > > >>>You might like to download the 30-day eval copy of this converter: > > > >>>http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html > > > >>>which converts visio vector graphics drawings to many image or > > > >>>pdf formats. > > > >>> > > > >>>As far as I can see, it installs and runs fine, but I couldn't find a > > > >>>visio > > > >>>file to try it out. > > > >>> > > > >>>Cheers. > > > >>> > > > >>>Chandan > > > >>> > > > >>>Keith Addison wrote: > > > >>>>Hello all > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Someone sent me some interesting diagrams, but I can't extract them. > > > >>>>He said: "the diagrams i have are microsoft visio doc.s but they may > > > >>>>convert to html." We use Macs and I can usually get stuff out of > > > >>>>Windoze docs, but not this time. Would anyone be able to get tiff's > > > >>>>or jpg's or gif's out of an MS Visio doc if I sent them the file? > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Thanks much > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Keith _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
