Hi Malmo,

A couple of points.

1. Lets keep this civil.
2. Again I point out that of my aquaintances, I know more American fans who
relate to km splits. Believe me it is not all that difficult. (It is
possible to relate to both). Most of our cross country races and road races
had km splits.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: malmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 November 2000 17:12
To: Michael Casey
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info


Everyone has the right to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do!
They call them opinions.

As for "... I know more American fans who relate to km splits than those who
don't."  Don't try to get one past me, Sonny. That's simply untrue.

Keep on runnin' brother.

malmo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casey
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:04 AM
> To: malmo
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info
>
>
> Hi Malmo,
> I beg to disagree with your "emphatic" statement. Having competed
> in the US
> for 4 years I know more American fans who relate to km splits
> than those who
> don't. Admitting that I know only a miniscule minority of American fans it
> still negates your statement that American fans do not relate to Kilometer
> splits, at least SOME do.
> My point is that if mile splits were done away with  overnight
> and km splits
> introduced I have every confidence that the VAST majority of American fans
> would have no problem in adapting to them.
> With regard to your "emphatic" statement that American fans need
> not relate
> to km splits, I have no argument with that or with the statement that km
> splits "work just fine".
> As to your "emphatic" statement that American fans "should not
> relate to km
> splits".... has anyone got the right to tell the American fans what they
> should or shouldn't do??????
>
> Regards
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: malmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 November 2000 16:48
> To: Michael Casey; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info
>
>
> Speaking as an American, Mike, and as one who is fluent in metric
> as well as
> imperial, I will say EMPHATICALLY: American fans do not, need not, and
> should not relate to kilometer splits. Mile splits work just fine.
>
> You're over-estimating the intelligence of Americans. The "land of Jerry
> Springer" does not possess the ability to relate to km splits.
>
> malmo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casey
> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 7:47 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info
> >
> >
> > Hi Walt,
> > The points still remain. I have great faith in the american fans
> > ability to
> > relate km times to pace.
> >
> > And I agree with you that final times in crosscountry races are
> relatively
> > meaningless, but if this is true, so are the split times.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 November 2000 15:41
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA XC Splits and Leader Info
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/23/00 9:32:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > << If thats the case who cares what the split times are?????
> Also I think
> > you
> > underestimate the ability of the people in attendance at an
> American cross
> > country race to relate to km splits. My knowledge of American
> > Cross country
> > people is that they are very intelligent, and mathematically astute and
> > would have NO problem in relating to km splits in metric races and mile
> > splits in  imperial races. >>
> >
> > This has nothing to with intelligence...in my opinion, most
> American fans
> > relate to mile splits (in x-country races) in terms of pace,
> rather than a
> > projection of a final time. And I would still argue that final times,
> > especially in races run in severe conditions, such as those
> > present in Ames,
> > are relatively meaningless
> >
> > Unlike races run on the track, it's impossible to compare times from one
> > course to another. Times can be historically meaningful when
> they occur on
> > courses that have a long tradition, such as Mt.SAC and Van
> Cortlandt Park.
> >
> > Walt Murphy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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