So do you think we should add a long jump flip competition to our Greater Boston Invitational on Jan 19, 2003 at the Harvard indoor track? What would happen if we did so? Tom Derderian, GBTC ----- Original Message ----- From: "P N Heidenstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:05 AM Subject: t-and-f: Long jump with a flip
> > Some more, for those interested in a little US/NZ history. > > When John Delamere jumped 25' 6"3/4 at the 1974 Pacific > Conference meet he tied with Randy Williams, the reigning > Olympic champ. He did not just wow the crowd; the officials > at the pit suddenly became speechless. John's best legal > jump otherwise (he cleared a windy 25' 9"1/2 in 1973) is > 7.53m, so you COULD say that the vault style improved > his distance by 10"1/4. > > John likes to be known these days as Tuariki John Delamere > because of his Maori ancestry. He joined the ITA circus in > 1975 and was amateured in 1982 after the change in the > IAAF's attitude to professionalism. Later he became a > Cabinet Minister, becoming only the second NZ track and > field champion to reach that rank. > > The first happened to be also a Maori and a LJ champion, > Te Rangi Hiroa alias Sir Peter Buck. Older scholars may > recall him as Professor of Anthropology at Yale. > > The only reason so far advanced for why the IAAF banned > the Flip was its supposed danger. But they allowed the HJ > Flop, which sometimes develops into a somersault, albeit > a reverse one, with similar or greater dangers. Moreover > the Flop had an enormous impact on HJ standards, surely > far greater than the O'Brien or Oldfield SP styles had, or the > Flip might have. Has anyone done a study to find more > clearly what effect the Flip might indeed have had? > > ========================== > On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 06:16:05 -0800 > Garry Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: long jump with a flip > > A quick history, just off the top of my head: Idaho State coach Dave Nielsen > is pictured in the pages of T&FN around '73 using the technique. At the '74 > Pac-8 meet in the LA Coliseum, John Delamere of Washington State absolutely > blew the crowd away by using the style. As I recall, jumped somehting like > 25-4 3/4 wind-aided. In '75 Bruce Jenner used it and added about a foot to > his best, but the IAAF shortly thereafter banned the technique, citing > "safety issues." I think they were premature in so doing. > > I think Delamere went on to become a member of the New Zealand parliament. > > gh > > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 06:16:05 -0800 > From: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: t-and-f: long jump with a flip > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:57:36 -0500 (CDT) > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: t-and-f: long jump with a flip > > > > Someone who knows far more about track than I do wrote: > > > >> I seem to recall that long jump with a flip looked like a mechanical > >> improvement before it was banned. > > > > That must have been a truly revolutionary technique. Who was doing it, and > > when, and how far? > > > A quick history, just off the top of my head: Idaho State coach Dave Nielsen > is pictured in the pages of T&FN around '73 using the technique. At the '74 > Pac-8 meet in the LA Coliseum, John Delamere of Washington State absolutely > blew the crowd away by using the style. As I recall, jumped somehting like > 25-4 3/4 wind-aided. In '75 Bruce Jenner used it and added about a foot to > his best, but the IAAF shortly thereafter banned the technique, citing > "safety issues." I think they were premature in so doing. > > I think Delamere went on to become a member of the New Zealand parliament. > > gh > >
