Hi, Highway=no seems acceptable to me where a path is permanently physically blocked by a building or such-like. We're not serving anyone by directing people into wals. I do, however, disagree with its use to tag definitive rights of way which are useable but which merely deviate from the route a mapper mapped on the ground. Eg. I don't think a highway=no tag should be added to a cross field definitive footpath just because a path round the field has been mapped.
Kind regards, Adam On Tue, 5 May 2020, 12:35 Andy Townsend, <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 05/05/2020 11:53, Adam Snape wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > > > I'd consider this particular proposed use of highway=no to mean "there > > is a public highway here but there's no visible path on the ground" to > > be a somewhat country-specific and counter-intuitive tagging practice. > > It's certainly being suggested here as a solution to a > > country-specific issue regarding the mapping of England and Wales' > > rights of way network. > > For the avoidance of doubt, we already have "trail_visibility" as a > useful tag here. It's well used worldwide > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/trail_visibility#values and in > the UK https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/trail_visibility#values > and I (at least) use it to decide whether to render a path or not. > > That said, I'd be reluctant to use any other highway tag other than "no" > when there is a legal right of way but (say) someone's built a house > there so there is no physical access. By all means add > "designation=public_footpath" (with some sort of note) but please not > "highway=footway" (my apologies if no-one was suggesting this - it > wasn't 100% clear in the conversation). > > Personally I'd tend to just omit the highway tag for cases like this. I > wouldn't personally have a problem with people using "highway=no" for > them but I take Andy Allan's point earlier, and he has far more > experience dealing with how data consumers misuse OSM tags than I. > > On the "country specific" bit England and Wales are pretty unique with > their "public footpaths" etc. More civilised countries (like Scotland) > have something like "allemansrätten" in law. :) > > Best Regards, > > Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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