I hope it were faster than annually at SOTM and that the voting be more
participatory since not everyone involved can be at SOTM.

But anyway, I like the idea of working groups to handle individual schema
upgrades.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> wrote:

>
> Dear all,
>
> If the wood/forest and path/footway arguments have taught us one thing,
> it's that the current model doesn't work all the time (100s of emails,
> disorganised wiki discussions, votes with 20 or so random people). We
> develop, over years, one set of tags like
> highway=footway/cycleway/bridleway/etc. and then over time we realise the
> schema isn't quite right. But we're incapable of discussing it in a
> structured manner, and we rarely get a useful consensus.
>
> For simple matters like proposing a completely new, minor tag it's fine.
> Where competing proposals for new features, like house numbers, live side
> by side we generally find a superior solution gaining traction.
>
> Where proposals throw up bigger or more complicated questions about
> existing tags, used on thousands or even millions of nodes and ways, the
> whole thing is falling apart.
>
> So...
>
> I propose that we grow up a little and use something like this process:
>
> - Tags are proposed on the wiki, no change to current practice
> - If the proposal throws into question existing, accepted tags, defer the
> proposal to small working groups
> - These working groups study the wider questions and formulate a complete
> proposal for new tags, deprecation, etc.
> - At SOTM present and discuss their proposals and vote
> - If proposals are accepted, a combination of carrot (rendering
> stylesheets, Potlatch presets, etc.) and sticks (error checking,
> auto-correcting bots) to implement the accepted proposals
>
> So for example Nick Whitelegg and Martin Simon might lead a group to work
> out how best to tag paths of all kinds. If their proposal was accepted at
> SOTM 2010, somebody would create a map highlighting all the ways that
> probably need to be corrected and a massive effort to bring things in line
> with the new schema would kick off.
>
> Does this sound workable?
>
> Regards,
> Tom
>
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