Chris Hill wrote:
>Sent: 25 September 2009 3:08 PM
>To: OSM Talk
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?
>
>Dave F. wrote:
>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local
>>>> council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way,
>>>> and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When
>>>> they make a legal order to record a public right of way they send a
>copy
>>>> of the order to the OS who then copy the line of the right of way onto
>>>> their own maps.
>>>>
>>> In principle that is correct - the problem arises if the council has
>>> referred to an OS map in any way while defining the right of way. If
>>> they have then the OS will claim it is a derived work and infected by
>>> their copyright etc.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>> The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay,
>> but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info.
>> eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce
>> the definitive maps.
>> It would come down to what you, I, council & OS mean by 'define' I
>suppose.
>>
>> This is the copyright at the bottom:
>> "Reproduced from the Ordnance Survey mapping with the permission of the
>> Controller of Her Majesty's Stationery Office C Crown Copyright.
>> Unauthorised reproduction infringes Crown copyright and may lead to
>> prosecution or civil proceedings."
>>
>> Note it says 'reproduced' not produced. Not sure if that is significant
>> or not.
>>
>> If I was to transfer the paths, I wouldn't be copying the OS underlay
>> map just the ways of the path. Does that make a difference?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave F.
>>
>>
>The copyright statement at the bottom is all that counts.  OS will claim
>it is a derivative work, so, they could claim that if you copy from it
>into OSM you will be in breach their copyright.  The tracks only gain
>context because they are on an OS map.  The only way to settle who is in
>the wrong is to go to court, which OSM cannot afford.  I don't like the
>wide-ranging claims that the OS make about derivative works but I don't
>think we can afford to ignore them.
>
>Why not walk or cycle the routes with a GPS, collect the tracks and
>photos, enjoy some time in the countryside, add the paths to the map
>with a clear conscience and metaphorically thumb your nose at the OS?

+1

Cheers

Andy

>
>Cheers, Chris
>
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