On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:19 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: > >> 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. >> Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. >> But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy >> to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's very clear that nobody can >> convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to >> use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, >> but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his choice, >> and it's totally fine, but if we all feel that way then we have to deal with >> the downside that every single day we lose tens of thousands of edits >> because of that monopoly on bad UI. All I'm suggesting is we sidestep the >> problem and connect people who can report a map bug but can't be bothered to >> deal with pain and suffering of potlatch with the people who can deal with >> it, at least until Richard gets his act together and stops fixing every >> stupid thing > in the old codebase. You have to take a step back here and realise what we're > missing out on. > > Oh for crying out loud Steve, do you have to be such a complete shit all the > time? I honestly wouldn't blame Richard if he deleted all his code and walked > off into the sunset and we never saw him again after that pointless little > diatribe. I do help it made you feel better.
And I, Tom, would feel fine leaving too after you pissed all over the design work in OGD comments I got done yesterday because I didn't ask your express permission. I think it's a totally valid criticism to say potlatch 1 feels like windows 3.0, there's potlatch 2 that's been sitting around forever, and it's a million times better, and if it's not going to ever get finished we need to look at other ways to allow people to contribute to the map. Yours &c. Steve _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
