As long as the user is traceable, contactable and blockable (by
Nearmap), and that user is clearly reminded not to copy data off other
maps, then I'd let them get on with it.
Richard
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:20 PM, John Smith <deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5 August 2010 08:02, Ian Dees <ian.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the point that Frederik was trying to make was that this model
>> ("bulk imported in real time") is not ideal. Ideally, we want the users
>> interacting directly with the OSM API rather than going through some
>> intermediary service.
>
> It's obvious that Nearmap, and others, want something simpler than
> potlatch to allow people to add their home address or even just a
> missing street name as a one off, sure this might get abused and it
> will be up to Nearmap or others running these services to deal with
> abuse or face the problem of having their account blocked until they
> can. Making this process unnecessarily complicated is exactly the
> reason why Nearmap is attempting this in the first place.
>
>> We want this for at least two reasons:
>> 1) So we can follow our standard procedure for blocking users that perform
>> unwanted edits (whether they be vandals, inappropriate imports, or unusable
>> sources).
>
> As above, this will be up to Nearmap to police, and to some extent
> this should shift some burden from the OSM community onto others, with
> paid staff, to monitor so others can get on and do the mapping, I see
> this as a good thing!
>
>> 2) So we can communicate with the end mapper (regarding license changes,
>> community events, etc.).
>
> These users don't give a toss about licenses, they just want to fix a
> mistake, such as a missing street name, why make things more
> complicated than that?
>
>> OAuth was implemented for exactly this purpose. The user creates an account
>> on OSM.org, NearMap's client authenticates with OAuth, and the user can make
>> edits. It sounds like NearMap has an issue with sending the user off to
>> OSM.org to generate a user account and trying to draw them back in to
>> complete the OAuth process.
>
> It might have been, but that's authentication, not account creation,
> which is the whole point Ben made in the first place, they don't want
> to subject their users to multiple sets of terms and conditions and
> confirming account creation and so on and so forth just to add a
> street name, no wonder OSM is only for the geeks when the process has
> to be so convoluted and overly engineered just to fix a simple mistake
> like a missing street name.
>
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