Hi, On 4 August 2010 15:47, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: >>> You kind of have a point there with addresses and all; assume you'd just >>> produce your very own database of house numbers built by your users, then >>> release that, say, as PD or CC0. It would only be days until someone in >>> OSM >>> came along and proposed to import your database into OSM, which would >>> effectively end up the same (all data being contributed under one user >>> id). >>> >>> But in that scenario, the importing user would take full responsibility, >>> and >>> if it turned out that a significant portion of the import was in some way >>> faulty, the whole import would be rolled back. >> >> That's possibly the worst way to handle it > > I was just using that as an example which would lead to all data being under > the same account, and in a way that nobody on OSM's side would complain. I > wasn't suggesting they actually do that.
Sorry then, good that it's clear. It did sound like a suggestion. > >> Note that nearmap.com is taking it pretty seriously about taking >> responsibility. > > I was trying to explain that this responsibility might mean that OSM takes > measures - such as reverting all contributions - against a particular user, > even if that one user happens to be a concentration point for contributions > of many human beings. Let's look at it practically. If a proxy (e.g. nearmap) user commits vandalism, there are several things OSM may want to do: 1. undo the vandalism, 2. contact the user, 3. block the user. For 1. it's actually better that the edits are logically grouped into changesets, rather than imported by a 3rd party in 50000 element changesets. Obviously it would be even better if all the proxy user's changesets were grouped in an individual user account. But Ben mentioned that changes were going to be tagged, so I suppose it will be possible to locate all the individual human editor's edits. For 2. again Ben mentioned that there would be a way to do that, and for 3. he hasn't said anything but I expect they have thought of it too. So considering this, blocking the entire account would be overzealous. But then if it is eventually determined that nearmap.com were the "bad guys", that would be useful. Yes, it would require support in editors like JOSM to see who edited a given feature last.. on the other hand most of the times if you have doubts about the quality of some change, you have to see the full history of the object, because the interesting edit may have been before last edit. Cheers _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
