On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Christian Quest <cqu...@openstreetmap.fr> wrote:
> So far, the only explanation about the usesulness of the dedicated > account is linked to tracking imported data or I missed something on > the wiki. Same here, I'd like to understand this better. Conceptually it seems that tracking a source on the changeset is much better as it accomodates for many users importing from the same source while not tag spamming on nodes and ways. > > If this is the goal, why small changesets of imported data may not > require a dedicated account ? > This data doesn't need to be tracked ? > > I'm also really wondering on the tracking of the data thru dedicated > accounts for such highly split imports (as a reminder, the cadastre > data is split with 36000+ datasets, one for each village/town/city in > France). > On how many accounts will the cadastre data will have to be tracked ? > Is there a list of "cadastre import dedicated accounts" somewhere ? > Maybe a required naming of the account names ? > > The more interesting proposal I've seen so far were the "bot/import" > tags. It really brings a benefit for the tracking and makes the > dedicated account requirement outdated. > > > I also asked some time ago if it was necessary to have a dedicated > account for each source of imported data ? > If tracking is the goal, it seems logical. > > If so, I need one dedicated account for: > - cadastre (administrative boundaries + buildings) > - IGN (geodesic points + GEOFLA place=*) > - schools > - RATP (paris public transport, subway station, and we expect 12000+ > bus_stops should be available sooner or later) > - SNCF (railway stations and level crossings) > - La Poste (post office locations) > - Nantes metropole adresses (400.000 imported street by street after > crowdsourced reviewing) > and so on... because that's today's situation with more and more > useful datasets to bring into OSM. > > > Wake up ! opendata is here, now, and the more (useful) datasets we > find the more it is clear that a mass import is not possible. > We've learned from CLC and Tiger imports... and the map is not blank > as it used to be. > > > Here is my proposal... have separate guidelines for mass imports and > for split/shared/crowdsource imports. > > When a full dataset is imported more or less "as is" by a very small > number of contributors (possibly just one) in such case, YES, a > dedicated account is a real benefit. With ONE dedicated account, you > track all the imported data. > > When the dataset needs to be reworked manually, integrated sometime by > reviewing each object one by one, or sometime group by group, where > the works is share by a lot of contributors, in such cases frankly I > don't see the benefits of the dedicated account(s). The bot/import tag > on changesets is much more efficient. > > Christian > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633 _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk