Have a look there: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/486 If categories are create (and I think they should), I would still add private notes/heavy duty work
JB.

Le 10/08/2014 14:10, Matthijs Melissen a écrit :
I see a lot of comments like this. The underlying problem seems to be
that it is not clear whether notes are meant for armchair mappers, or
for surveyors in the field.

I think both types of notes are useful: that way the notes can serve
as a two-way communication between mappers in the field (for example
novices who don't know how to edit the map themselves) and armchair
mappers (who might want to communicate with mappers in the field if
they are unable to do a field check themselves at that moment).

So the solution might be very simple: make two types of notes, 'desk'
notes and 'field' notes. The desk notes can be handled by armchair
mappers. The field notes need a check in the field. Notes created by
anonymous users should be desk notes by default, and if information is
missing, the armchair mapper should be able to turn it into a field
note.

The notes JB refers seem to be field-type notes. I think they are
useful, and I think it's not helpful if armchair mappers try to close
all of them without doing a survey.

Anyone think a split in field and desk notes is a good idea?
Implementation of this should be easy.

-- Matthijs

On 10 August 2014 11:50, JB <jb...@mailoo.org> wrote:
Hello,
I think I will reopen the debate here, by asking a simple question: how many
of those saying "hey, let this note open, it does no harm to anybody" have
actually browsed a country for its opened notes and tried to close them? How
many have done the same with openstreetbugs during its last year of life?
If you have not, let me tell you, loud and clear: the note database will
become unusable soon. When you browse 10 notes and are forced to leave 9
open because it does provide no clean information, you just stop trying.
That is why during OSB close up, I found so many notes of that kind
(continue the path, this is wrong, this does not exist, etc.), that where
just not clear enough, or where just too old (the correction had been done
without OSB), and most of them where more than 2 years old. And this is why
OSB was a mess in the end.
I have tried to keep the DB clean in France, am still trying by beeing less
narrow-minded, but I just see its quality decreasing every day.
So I do not have the exact number, but adding some 10s of little valued
notes every week saying "this speed limit may be wrong", some of them added
by error (not along a highway) does not seem an improvement to the notes DB
to me.
JB.


Le 10/08/2014 09:42, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :

Il giorno 09/ago/2014, alle ore 13:56, Norbert Wenzel
<norbert.wenzel.li...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

just seeing these notes along a
motorway every few kilometers. And since these messages don't tell what
the actual speed limit should be and where it starts it gets really
annoying to close all these automatically generated notes.

why are you closing them, if you can't solve the issue? I would keep them
open, if you are not sure that the limit is correct in OSM

cheers,
Martin
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