Reminds me of what Mapdust failed at.

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl
> wrote:

> I see a lot of comments like this. The underlying problem seems to be
> that it is not clear whether notes are meant for armchair mappers, or
> for surveyors in the field.
>
> I think both types of notes are useful: that way the notes can serve
> as a two-way communication between mappers in the field (for example
> novices who don't know how to edit the map themselves) and armchair
> mappers (who might want to communicate with mappers in the field if
> they are unable to do a field check themselves at that moment).
>
> So the solution might be very simple: make two types of notes, 'desk'
> notes and 'field' notes. The desk notes can be handled by armchair
> mappers. The field notes need a check in the field. Notes created by
> anonymous users should be desk notes by default, and if information is
> missing, the armchair mapper should be able to turn it into a field
> note.
>
> The notes JB refers seem to be field-type notes. I think they are
> useful, and I think it's not helpful if armchair mappers try to close
> all of them without doing a survey.
>
> Anyone think a split in field and desk notes is a good idea?
> Implementation of this should be easy.
>
> -- Matthijs
>
> On 10 August 2014 11:50, JB <jb...@mailoo.org> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I think I will reopen the debate here, by asking a simple question: how
> many
> > of those saying "hey, let this note open, it does no harm to anybody"
> have
> > actually browsed a country for its opened notes and tried to close them?
> How
> > many have done the same with openstreetbugs during its last year of life?
> > If you have not, let me tell you, loud and clear: the note database will
> > become unusable soon. When you browse 10 notes and are forced to leave 9
> > open because it does provide no clean information, you just stop trying.
> > That is why during OSB close up, I found so many notes of that kind
> > (continue the path, this is wrong, this does not exist, etc.), that where
> > just not clear enough, or where just too old (the correction had been
> done
> > without OSB), and most of them where more than 2 years old. And this is
> why
> > OSB was a mess in the end.
> > I have tried to keep the DB clean in France, am still trying by beeing
> less
> > narrow-minded, but I just see its quality decreasing every day.
> > So I do not have the exact number, but adding some 10s of little valued
> > notes every week saying "this speed limit may be wrong", some of them
> added
> > by error (not along a highway) does not seem an improvement to the notes
> DB
> > to me.
> > JB.
> >
> >
> > Le 10/08/2014 09:42, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :
> >
> >>
> >>> Il giorno 09/ago/2014, alle ore 13:56, Norbert Wenzel
> >>> <norbert.wenzel.li...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>>
> >>> just seeing these notes along a
> >>> motorway every few kilometers. And since these messages don't tell what
> >>> the actual speed limit should be and where it starts it gets really
> >>> annoying to close all these automatically generated notes.
> >>
> >>
> >> why are you closing them, if you can't solve the issue? I would keep
> them
> >> open, if you are not sure that the limit is correct in OSM
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Martin
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