Roland, thanks for the links. Local knowledge is very important, but lets not make it into a sacred cow at the cost of common sense. I have not been to every single street in New York City. I am nearly 100% sure that all editors has edited objects that were near their location, but that they have not actually visited, or walked by without walking in, etc. Local knowledge is an important concept, but its physically impossible to walk into every building and research every tag for every building. Or are you saying Tomas has visited every single street/building in Lithuania?
Also, local knowledge doesn't trump tagging standards - if I start tagging national highways as power lines simply because I happened to be in the area, it does not mean I am right -- more likely it means I am a novice editor that should be helped by anyone - even if they are on the other side of the planet. My reading of Tomas answer is not that the Wikipedia tag was not fixed, or that it can't be fixed, but that it should be left untouched because it should be fixed in a perfect way only by a local, with all other tags too, and it is better to have completely wrong tags than to have good tags but other tags in less than perfect state. This is not local knowledge, this is an editing preference, and a strange one at that. Local knowledge needs to coexist with OSM as a global movement, so I do hope this is not a turf war, but rather a misunderstand that can be easily solved by reason. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Roland Olbricht <roland.olbri...@gmx.de> wrote: > But what you are saying is very strange if I understood you correctly. >> What I read here is that the only people allowed to fix things are those >> that know ALL tags and their meaning. >> > > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_use > rs#Original_research_always_wins > > Or similar statements on > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Getting_Involved#Working_on_the_map > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what. > 27s_on_the_ground > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule > > It is the local knowledge that matters. Tomas does know what it looks like > there, and deems the wikipedia link correct. This is in line with similar > cases like the mentioned distinction Aldi Nord/Aldi Süd and other. > > We expect you to assure that the tool is used only (or almost only) in > cases where the user has local knowledge, i.e. has been there, physically, > in person. Otherwise the tool is considered a disguised bot, no matter how > it is dressed. > > Best regards, > > Roland > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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