iD editor attracts a hell of a lot of "WTFs", doesn't it? I mean, even
its most ardent fan must occasionally raise a Roger Moore eyebrow.
bhuousel has taken the presumptive decision that the contributor's
desired end result will always be a MP relation. This is wrong, plain &
simple (& quite arrogant). iD editor should provide tools to allow
contributors to make their own decisions as easily as possible & not
take them on their behalf.
As has been noted other, editors don't make this assumption.
The correct solution to split polygons with tags on the ways is to
rejoin those ways, not create a MP.
A MP with only one* outer is invalid.
* splitting it still means there's only one.
Relations were created to allow mapping of entities, not possible with
just ways. They aren't meant to be the default for all objects.
DaveF
On 27/10/2020 08:11, Simon Poole wrote:
Its done that essentially since day one. As Bryce points out doing so
keeps the object a valid "area" (and iD makes a valiant effort to stop
you from breaking that).
It is also one of my favourite examples in talks why trying to keep
things simple for the user is very difficult and some times
counterproductive.
Lots of people have had the wtf moment when they come along a
multi-polgon consisting of just one ring built from two ways. The
problem is that once the user has split the polygon, there is no
obvious point in time were you can be sure that the user is finished
with it and you could simplify, particularly when you are trying to
get the user to save often and early. So the simplification for the iD
user comes at the expense of wtf's of everybody else.
Simon
Am 27.10.2020 um 02:05 schrieb Dave F via talk:
Hi
I don't use iD editor much, but I've just discovered it auto-converts
closed polygons which are split (Shortcut Key = X) into MP relations.
I'm struggling to comprehend a logical reason for this. Is there one?
If there's been a previous discussion which I've missed please post a
link.
There's a couple of threads on iD's github issues, bhousel closed
them with "wontfix - I Saw A Thing I Didn't Like (but is valid in OSM).
It may be valid, but is it desirable or helpful? I split closed ways,
in P2, for various reasons without wanting them to be converted. How
many newbies would even know what a MP relation is?
Having them as as split tagged ways is just as "valid". More so,
considering splitting long ways is desirable.
DaveF
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