On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:56, Michal Migurski <m...@teczno.com> wrote: > First, the text of the ODbL is explicit about “reasonably calculated” > awareness. FB believes its maps comply with this. The ODbL does not require > that “every” person see the attribution. It requires that “any” person can.
I believe that you are wrong here. In ODbL 4.3, "any Person" is synonymous with "every Person". The term "reasonably calculated" modifies the whole clause, and is about the result of the scheme as a whole, not "reasonable awareness" by individuals. It means that the attribution method you use must be reasonably calculated to ensure that *every* person viewing will be aware that content has come from OpenStreetMap. Nowhere does the clause allow you to only provide the opportunity for anyone to be able to discover the source if they decide to, or to only ensure some people are aware. Yes, the "reasonably calculated" means that not 100% of people necessarily have to be aware, but the attribution scheme does have to have the purpose and intention of making everyone aware. You have to be able to say that under a reasonable assessment of the scheme, everyone viewing the work will know of the ODbL source. I think it's clear this is not the case for the current Facebook attribution, as clearly lots of people will not choose to click on the "(i)" icon. Given your interpretation of ODbL 4.3 and the statements you have made so far, does this mean that you and/or Facebook are admitting that the current Facebook attribution does not meet this stricter interpretation of 4.3? i.e. the current Facebook attribution is not "reasonably calculated" to ensure that every person who "uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from" OpenStreetMap? I think this is a crucial point that the OSM community needs an answer to, given your candidacy for the OSMF Board. Many thanks, Robert. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
