Hi all,

Just wanted to chiming on this topic.

I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/

It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The development env
only works on windows right now which suck for m 400 based client as they
run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is that there is no code
changes required on the 400 side. You can customize the layout and such as
well so it can look nothing like your green screen apps at all. Kind of
cool.

I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out there and I
think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with enough effort web5250
could do the same. Just a thought.




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On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
> Thanks Wim.
>
>
> This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of years ago.
> Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be fairly straight-forward
> (probably a lot harder to do than it sounded...) This is very cool and
> Swing would be a good fit.
>
>
> Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all?  I saw a demo of a JSF app
> that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly a server side
> implementation.  I have been meaning to take a look at it in more detail
> and see how difficult the coding is.  The JSP/Struts/Tiles approach has
> always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to simplify that.  I need
> to take a look at it soon but it might give you a richer-looking UI
> without the client side hassles of Swing.  Mapping to JSF components might
> be a possibility.  I'll look into it when I have a chance to see what you
> are doing.
>
> One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a "static"
> mapping option that would allow you to actually change the component layout
> at the client end.  Rather than doing the transformation on the fly, you
> could create "map file" and use that instead.  Not sure how to implement
> that though.
>
> Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good news on the
> code page support in JT400.  That should take care of it!
>
> Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....
>
>
> Pete Helgren
>
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Hello Pete,
>>
>>
>> great to hear some acitivity from this corner.
>>
>> The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is tailored to
>> their screen layouts. Still have to do some bugfixes for them shortly, so
>> I can send some screenshots on the list to give an idea to what it
>> looks like. We were now discussing internally whether we were going to
>> apply the scraper to our own screens, or build some kind of Swing gui
>> components on top of the stream: a table for a subfile, a label for
>> static text, a textfield for fields etc. The idea is to be able to build
>> swing panels that read and write their data from the screen. The buttons
>> and menu's would call function keys etc to do screen transitions and
>> move to the next swing panel. What do you think? For us it is just to be
>> able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time to reengineer the
>> apps in full GUI apps.
>>
>> The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not find the
>> 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if they're not in de
>> toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here not the AS/400 numberings?
>>
>> Regards,
>> wim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Pete Helgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> 14/10/2005 15:41
>> Please respond to
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>> Subject
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>>
>> Gee....been kinda quiet around here.  Must mean we are all gainfully
>> employed and busy?
>>
>> A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):
>>
>>
>> 1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper project you were
>> involved in that used tn5250j components.  Where are you on that?  I'd
>> love to know what you are doing in that area since I think tn5250j has
>> some powerful tools in that would be useful.
>>
>> 2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page support,
>> specifically for 1200 and 1208?  There was a post in midrange.com from
>> someone looking for an emulator that supported those code pages.  I
>> didn't see it in the list of supported code pages (not in JT400 either).
>> I'd like to help this guy out if I could, I just don't know
>> how difficult it is to support other code pages.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Pete Helgren
>>
>>
>> P.S. Kenneth are you out there ?  How is it going?
>>
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