Re: [TruthTalk] Perry & Dave: inquiring minds want to know

[Dave Hansen]

Dean Moore wrote:   cd: Ignorance in our language isn't a bad word or a put down-it means that one simple doesn't know certain topics or facts. I am ignorant about many areas of Mormon religion such as what is Pay-lay ale? Yet I understand that to be the brother of Christ-Satan isn't viewed in your religion to be such a bad guy.So to you doing a chant invoking his name isn't the worst one can do. DAVEH:   So why do you make assumptions about something you do not know about, Dean?   Your ignorance may cause you to draw incorrect conclusions.   cd: So where am I wrong Dave? Help me overcome my ignorance as we try to do you. DAVEH:  If you don't understand something about LDS theology, why would you make incorrect claims about what we believe rather than asking what we believe?  (I may be wrong, but I think you were one who claimed that we believe God had sex with Mary.....correct me if I am wrong.) But for the matter of our discussion Lucifer is not another name of Satan DAVEH:   Do you not consider Lucifer and Satan to be one in the same entity???     cd: No and if you follow mine and Kevin's  debate you will see why. DAVEH:   I find that interesting, Dean.  I thought that was commonly believed.  I have not been following your exchange with Kevin very closely, so I do not know your reasons for believing they are two separate entities.  Does your believe represent mainstream Protestant thinking on that? -this is a mistake in the meaning of the translation.In the ancient Greek the word was "Day Star" and refereed to the Babylon Prince Belshazzar ( I think that was his name) and was comparing men to stars and Belshazzar was the most powerful man as Venus was the brightest morning star hence to name Lucifer-which by the way the only time this name is used in the bible (Isaiah 14:12) .In a d eeper search The word actually means "Howl"The NASB is mo re correct here then the KJV. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.