Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-A&E

[knpraise]

 

I love it.  Judy interprets John !!!   If this is an example of your "spirit discernment,"  you have a long long way to go. 

 

In the account of A & E,  they are mortal beings just like you and I with two exceptions in terms of circumstance:  they had the Tree of Life and continued access to that tree was the only stated reason for their dismissal from the garden,   and  ,  they had not yet violated the expressly stated will of God.   The EFFECT of the fall presents the reader with consequences that are much more involved than we might have expected  --  at least for me.  

 

"In the image of God"  is not a reference to the essence of God's existence.   Holy and eternal are but two considerations of God.   He is omnipresent.   He is all wise and has all knowledge.   He is all powerful.  He is a triune being.     Give us a rule of some sort,  a path of season, for accepting two of His qualities and not the others.  

 

The fact of the matter is this  -   I believe that I can come closer to a biblical consideration for saying the "image" is the need for community than you can for "holy and eternal>"  

 

jd

 

 

 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:09:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-A&E

 

 

On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700 "Taylor" <wmtaylor@plains.net> writes:

From: Judy Taylor

So they were created one of two ways.  They were either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience - OR they were created like us which is mortal and dying as we live with

access to the tree of life?

 

More added words: you are setting up a strawman, Judy. Go back to what has been said and

see the distinction.

 

No strawman here Bill.

 

When you add the word "dying" to our words, Judy, you are setting up a strawman.

 

If anyone set up a strawman it was JD; he is the one who said they were created

"like us" which is mortal and the word "mortal" well I already gave the dictionary

definition.  They were created "in God's image" which is both holy and eternal.

 

 God did not create a dying people -- John did not say that, and neither did I.

 

JD said created "like us" in which case they would be a "dying people"

 

As long as A&W were eating of the tree of life, there was no death in them

whatsoever. Hence, what we are saying -- or at least I am -- is that God created

a people with the potential to die.

 

The above is a little different from what JD stated ... How about the potential to

fall as Lucifer did.  Angels are spirits - they don't die.  Humans I believe are also

created spiritual beings and tho our body is perishing our inner man is either

being renewed or being entrenched in even more darkness daily.

 

If you will accept this distinction, I will be happy to continue our discussion.

If not, then there is nothing to discuss.

 

Bill

 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)