> [Original Message]
> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> Date: 3/14/2006 12:45:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]    The dearly departed
>
> These comments are out of line.  The only person I have been on the phone 
> with is Ruben.  He called me just this morning, after Dean had decided to 
> step down from being moderator.  As for e-mail exchange, it has been very 
> minimal, with some attempts to include Dean to resolve problems off the 
> list.  This is entirely appropriate.  The evil surmisings about this 
> activity below are inappropriate.
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cd: Back to the evil surmising again I see- I said I had "reason to believe
DavH had called you". Here is my reason for that belief: Note that Perry
gave me permission to use this letter.

  [Original Message]
> From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 3/12/2006 8:49:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Perry
>
> Dean,
>
> If they deserved to go, then so be it. When I put DaveH off the list, he 
> entered into a big private email conversation with myself and David M
over 
> his getting banned. He and david M even chatted by phone. He never really 
> understood why I banned him. The reason he said he was banned was not the 
> reason I banned him, yet after I explained the real reason to him several 
> times, he continued to quote his imagined reason, I suspect because he
felt 
> it better supported his argument for a double standard on TT.
>
> I say all of this to let you know that he will bend the story to support 
> his own argument, even when the truth is presented plainly to him.
>
> Perry
cd: More below.
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>
> >From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Perry
> >Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:33:11 -0500
> >
> >Perry- I just put Daveh and Gary off the list-Things should get
interesting
> >now;-)
cd: More Below.
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> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 3/12/2006 3:57:56 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Perry
> > >
> > > Dean,
> > >
> > > Moderating TT is definitely a difficult task. As you know I have
> > > unsubscribed from TruthTalk, and to be honest, Dean, I do not have any
> > > intentions of rejoining, or being moderator again. I think that truth
> >talk
> > > actually did more to weaken my faith than to encourage it, and I don't
> >need
> > > that. Now that it is clear to me that TT is actually a secular group
> > > intended to discuss whatever anyone thinks is their personal truth,
not
> > > necessarily Christian truth, I see why it operates as it does. Not
only
> >is
> > > there no fellowship among the Christians on the group, there is
division
> >and
> > > strife among the would-be bretheren. It is truly a secular group, and
it
> > > behaves as such.
> > >
> > > When I was moderator the best I could do was to watch only for the 
> >most
> > > blatant ad-hominem references. Many of the people on TT are so
> > > self-deceiving and disrespectful of one another that they use 
> >ad-hominems
> > > and do so slyly that when it is pointed out they have 101 reasons and
> > > rationalizations why it was not an ad-hominem, why it was justified,
or
> >"why
> > > didn't you correct do-and-so when he said such-and-such about me"?
> > >
> > > So, the only advice I have, if you choose to remain the moderator, is
> >to
> > > continue to point out ad-hominems, continue to disallow public
responses
> >or
> > > discussions about moderator comments, and ignore the petty wining and
> > > sniping. Moderating worked well for me when I had the time to follow
> >every
> > > post, but when the traffic became heavy, I lagged behind and appeared
to
> >not
> > > be moderating at all. And most of all, do not expect to see brotherly
> >love
> > > in a secular group.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps, Dean.
> > > Perry
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>
> For what it's worth, I have not received or sent email to Gary at all and 
> did not even know he was taken off the list.  I would not have known that 
> Dave Hansen was taken off the list except that he wrote me privately
asking 
> me if that was the situation because the list was rejecting his
submissions. 
> I told him that I was unaware of this and that I would investigate and
let 
> him know.
>
> David Miller
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dean Moore
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
>
> cd: Does the foolish need a reason to be foolish? I also reason to
believe 
> that they have spoken behind my back on the phone- Wickedness whispering
in 
> Millers ear lies and half-truth-put a little truth-show a little emotion
in 
> the mix and there you have it. This is what happened with John-but I
refused 
> till he show signs of remorse. He hung around so long in private that he 
> reminded me of that stray dog that refused to leave my house. After a
while 
> I started feeding it out of pity-Turned out to be a worthless dog in the 
> end-didn't have no appreciation for the food, me ,or the pity.Just a 
> worthless dog-that bites the hand that feeds it.Sound familiar?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Judy Taylor
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Sent: 3/14/2006 1:02:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed
>
> Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy??
> Along with stirring the pot - where's the love??
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> writes:
> cd; They have been in contact with Miller - Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and 
> believe it or not Glen tabor.All in one group e-Mail-of which I seem to
be 
> the topic.
>
> From: ShieldsFamily
>
> Why dont you contact them directly? You have their email addresses, as
do 
> the rest of us. iz
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> By the way  --  are we allowed to ask as to the status of Gary and DH? 
> They are missed on this forum by some.
>
> jd 
>
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