Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

[Kevin Deegan]

All their rhetoric about the compatibility of faith and science doesn't mean much at
all if they affirm this idea that the Creator should be ignored in the study
of science.

 

Only if the study of Science is REALLY about the pursuit of truth!

Sadly that has not been it's track record.


David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alister McGrath? He was received at Oxford as an atheist, and later he
converted to Christianity. I guess your point is that John should become an
atheist first and then he would get in?

You still don't get my point. A Christian these days, according to many of
these theologians, must adopt the dogma that the mention of a Creator or
models that involve a Creator should not be taught in school. All their
rhetoric about the compatibility of faith and science doesn't mean much at
all if they affirm this idea that the Creator should be ignored in the study
of science.

David Miller

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism


David:

I'll take a pass on the ad-homs in your post as they simply illustrate what
I've said concerning you all along. You're an insular, rationalism-based,
anthropolically centered, angry, fundamentalist-based, sectarian. Ooops! I
didn't 'take a pass' did I?

I've but one name to give to you and this so-called grief stricken student.
Alister McGrath. Both of you do your homework so that you might see just how
wrong you are. (Bonus name: Thomas Weinandy).
Go to it guys!


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: March 22, 2006 08:39
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism


> David Miller wrote:
>>> I hate it when theologians are embarrassed
>>> of giving glory to the Creator in school.
>
> Lance wrote:
>> You do KNOW, do you not David, that
>> that's NOT the source of his embarrassment?
>> Rowan Williams is not embarrassed concerning
>> our Lord ANYWHERE. He, not unlike many,
>> are embarrassed over believers turning
>> non-issues into 'issues'. (i.e. creationISM)
>
> There is more to this issue that this. Is he embarrassed of certain
> brands
> of creationism? Of course. I am too. I'm embarrassed of Henry Morris
> and
> that whole ICR group over there. At the same time, they serve a purpose
> in
> what they do, and we should not revolt to them so much that we accept the
> atheistic and scientific agenda of removing all references to the Creator
> from our public schools.
>
> You say it is a NON-ISSUE? I consider such a statement ignorant in the
> extreme. Deceptive to the core. There is one thing that the ICR group
> has
> illustrated, and that is that this is an issue.
>
> I talked with a student a few months ago, John Boyles, just before he was
> elected to be President of Student Government at the University of
> Florida..
> I talked with him about the persecution my daughter is undergoing at UF
> just
> because she believes the Bible that homosexual behavior is sinful. He
> confided to me that he applied for a Rhodes scholarship to study theology
> at
> Oxford. He was turned down because he argued in his oral examination /
> interview that the idea of Intelligent Design should be considered in the
> classroom. If this was a non-issue, these professors of theology would
> have
> tolerated his creationist convictions. I wish I could convey to you the
> grief this man carried over his own religious persecution by those who
> would
> not have him study theology because he believed intelligent design
> theories
> should be considered in school.
>
> I truly believe that these modern theologians assume that scientists are
> well studied in origins and are deeply convicted about the truth of
> evolutionary processes and the absurdity of the teaching of Genesis. When
> the truth comes out, they will be the ones who will be greatly embarrassed
> in the day of our Lord. The philosopher Thomas Khun was right in how he
> depicted the way science really operates. These theologians who object to
> Creationist models of origins should pay attention to him just a little
> bit
> more.
>
> David Miller
>
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