----- Le 13 Déc 22, à 16:13, Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org a écrit 
:

> On 09/12/22 15:52, Lionel SCHWARZ wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Could someone explain me how dynRoles works? because I found something 
>> strange
>> and am not sure if I missed sthg or not...
>>
>> I have created a role with "dynMembershipCond" based on users having a 
>> certain
>> relationship. This works fine as after creating the role, all users that have
>> this relationship got the role in "dynRoles".
>>
>> However, when I then create a new user with such a relationship, it does not 
>> get
>> the the role (and if I then update the role, the new user gets it!)
>>
>> Is there anything more I need to do at creation, or something I 
>> misconfigured?
> 
> Hi Lionel,
> dynamic (group or role) membership is a weird feature, as it basically saves 
> the
> results of a user query (e.g. the dynamic membership condition) every time 
> that
> either the group  / role or user are saved.
> Unfortunately, it has proven to perform decently only with small numbers.
> 
> Every time a user gets saved, all existing Roles with dynamic conditions are
> considered to see if the user is matching so that the saved query results are
> updated.
> Similarly, when groups or roles with dynamic conditions are saved, a query for
> all users matching the condition is run, again to update the saved query
> results.
> 
> The case you are describing above might be possibly not working because of the
> condition based on a "dependent" element as a relationship, so the matching
> process is failing in first place (e.g. when the user is created) but is
> succeeding later (e.g. when the role is updated).
> 
> You might want to try using a different condition, based on a user attribute, 
> to
> see if that works for new users as well.

Thanks Francesco for your answer. 
What do you mean by "small numbers"? Should I forget about dynamic roles for a 
database of 5K users for example?

Lionel

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