For the most part, I agree with Wayne's sentiment. We did it in stages, and even now it isn't fully adopted. Like just about everyone else, before Maven we were using ant. A number of more agile projects which had more empowerment heard about Maven and just tried it on their projects. Some of these projects were fairly small and others were pretty large. The important part is that the developers decided to do it themselves and were thus committed to it. It worked well, and word began to spread amongst the grass roots of the development community.
It was key for us that it happened in a grass roots fashion. Wayne mentioned earlier that you should try and get higher level org buy in. But I don't think that really ever happens. The grass roots, or the pigs (for those that are familiar with scrum terminology) are the ones who start the change. Once you hit a certain critical mass, larger parts of the org start to follow suit. A meritocrocy approach, while slow, is generally the best way to get buy in. If you force it, everyone will hate it and not be very productive. > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Fay [mailto:wayne...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:07 PM > To: Maven Users List > Subject: Re: How to perform ordered tasks in Maven2 build > > > Can you provide examples of large organizations that made the move > > from Ant to Maven and were happy with the process and felt that the > > benefits outweighed the initial costs. > > I can only speak for the companies that I work for, and Maven > has only been adopted in pockets, not broadly due to the way > my company is organized -- development is not under one > division/person. And we are not primarily a development shop. > > I would expect that Sonatype could talk more broadly about > Maven's adoption at E*Trade, eBay, Overstock, Intuit, Qualcomm, etc. > > My personal opinion (and it is shared by many of the active > people on this list) is that jumping in with your first Maven > project as a "big Ant migration" is the worst possible way to > get started with Maven and is nearly guaranteed to fail. > > Wayne > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
