----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu> Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:03 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit
Well, as we've just discussed - up to a point. This is why it's important to try and have wider informed comment (if not good peer review) of papers presented at conferences which, maybe, assert some pet thoery only very lightly, if at all, supported by historical evidence. The point of all this is that such asserted views can sometimes become widely established by default - and then the very devil to shift..... Martyn
If we lived in an ideal world this might happen. But we don't and it doesn't.
Monica __________________________________________________________________
From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: "Braig, Eugene" <brai...@osu.edu> Cc: Vihuelalist <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014, 15:38 Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit How right you are. The problem with historic performance practices is that most of what is written about them is nothing more than speculation and conjecture. Unfortunately people are not willing to admit this and will fight to the death over things which will be forever unknown. Monica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Braig, Eugene" <[1]brai...@osu.edu> To: "Vihuelalist" <[2]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:31 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit > An academic on the day job, I recognize flaws inherent in the peer-review > process, that randomly sampling the wrong set from a population of > potential reviewers can have substantial subjective impacts on whether or > not a thing comes to be published. However, I do operate on both sides of > the process (more often as reviewer) and also recognize that it tends to > make contributions to any academic field generally stronger and more > defensible. I suspect dealing with fish, ecology, and statistical > procedures better lends itself to a purer objectivity than dealing with > historic performance practices that have to depend upon a certain amount > of speculation and conjecture. > > Eugene > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Monica Hall > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:42 AM > To: Lex Eisenhardt > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit > > To be honest - even if these articles are read by outside readers there is > no guarantee that they are gold standard. > > I do get asked to peer review things. What happens is that you write your > comments and recommendations but the editor decides whether the article is > acceptable as it is or whether the writer should be asked to make any > changes. > > I have also had things I have written myself peer reviewed and rejected > by people who didn't know what they were talking about! (and subsequently > published by someone else)! > > At the end of the day - anyone can get a group of likeminded peole > together > for a conferance and call it what they like. And with the internet > anyone > can publish whatever they like however bizarre it may be. > > It is really a matter of "caveat emptor". You need to evaluate > everything > that you read and check all the information for yourself. It goes > without > saying that you should never copy anyone elses work without checking > sources and ensuring that it is accurate. > > The problem today is that most people don't - a lot of what passes for > original research today is just a rehash of other peoples work - often > written so long ago as to be completely obsolete. > > As Pontius Pilate said "What is truth?". > > Monica > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lex Eisenhardt" <[5]eisenha...@planet.nl> > To: "Vihuelalist" <[6]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:01 PM > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit > > >> >> As I understand it, the (9!) guitar related articles in Early Music 41/4 >> and >> 42/1 were all reviewed by outside readers. >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: [7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[8]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens >> Martyn Hodgson >> Verzonden: woensdag 25 juni 2014 10:59 >> Aan: Monica Hall; Braig, Eugene >> CC: Vihuelalist >> Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> >> >> Well yes....... though if papers are presented, but not disseminated by >> the 'Summit' and/or are not peer reviewed is there not the problem >> (alas too common) of mere speculation being transformed into generally >> accepted fact? >> Martyn >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> From: Monica Hall <[9]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: "Braig, Eugene" <[10]brai...@osu.edu> >> Cc: Vihuelalist <[11]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2014, 7:08 >> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> That sums it up very nicely. Both the list and the Lake Konstanz >> meeting >> were opportunities for guitar enthusiasts to get together to discuss >> their >> interests. No need for any peer reviewing or the like. >> Monica >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Braig, Eugene" <[1][12]brai...@osu.edu> >> To: "Vihuela Dmth" <[2][13]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:01 PM >> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> > The word " s u b s c r i b e r " ended up robot flagging my last note >> for >> > redirection. Here it is again with the offending word deleted. >> > >> > E >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Braig, Eugene >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:59 PM >> > To: Vihuela Dmth >> > Subject: RE: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> > >> > I think more people are reading more into this thing than they >> should. >> > While many contributors coincide, the Lake Konstanz Guitar Research >> > Meeting operated independently of the Topica Guitar Summit. You can >> see a >> > concise summary of what the Lake Konstanz/Constance meeting is at the >> > bottom this GFA page: [3][14]http://www.guitarfoundation.org/?ArchForums >> . . . as >> > well as the organizers' own Facebook group: >> > [4][15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/131072740286508/. I've never >> managed to >> > attend the Lake Konstanz meeting in person. >> > >> > The "Guitar Summit" was a discussion forum (not unlike the present >> suite >> > of Dartmouth lute lists) that was hosted by Topica beginning in 2007. >> > However, it went through earlier incarnations hosted by a couple >> different >> > online services (most notably as the "Classical Guitar History List") >> that >> > slightly predate the first Lake Konstanz meeting. I have been a >> spotty >> > contributor to each iteration of the discussion fora/listservs since >> 2005. >> > When I was active there, there was a great deal of discussion >> centered on >> > transitional periods at either end of the 19th c. Yes, Matanya Ophee >> > served as an organizing hub for these listservs; his contributions to >> and >> > prominent voice in this particular arena are hard to deny, whatever >> your >> > opinion of them are. Still, at its core, the "summit" was really >> only a >> > listserv of guitar geeks (like me), scholars, and professional >> performers >> > who liked to ask interesting questions of a collective body of >> knowledge >> > (I tended to do more asking than ans! >> > wering). >> > >> > Best, >> > Eugene >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [5][16]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >> [mailto:[6][17]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On >> > Behalf Of jelmaa >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 12:43 PM >> > To: Martyn Hodgson >> > Cc: Vihuela Dmth >> > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> > >> > Hi Martin and others, >> > >> > No, the papers are not peer reviewed and not published by the >> organizers, >> > but I know many of them end up in journals later through the efforts >> of >> > the individual researchers. A list of speakers and subjects is >> published >> > though (I believe). You should really contact Andreas about that if >> you >> > want to know more. >> > >> > Best, Jelma >> > >> > >> > On Jun 24, 2014, at 17:26 , Martyn Hodgson wrote: >> > >> >> Thank you Jelma. >> >> Do you know if this 'Summit' ever publish any of these papers or >> are >> >> they available as downloads? Were they peer reviewed? >> >> regards >> >> Martyn >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> From: Jelma van Amersfoort <[7][18]jel...@gmail.com> >> >> To: Lex Eisenhardt <[8][19]eisenha...@planet.nl> >> >> Cc: Vihuela Dmth <[9][20]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2014, 11:31 >> >> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> >> Dear all, >> >> A >> >> "Lake Konstanz" is a bi-annual international conference on >> >> guitar-related research, historical and otherwise. It was >> established >> >> in 2007 by Gerhard Penn and Andreas Stevens.A The next meeting is >> in >> >> 2015. >> >> A >> >> I was there last year and presented a paper on guitar songs by >> the >> >> composer Pauline Duchambge (1776-1858). There were speakers from >> many >> >> different countries and backgrounds, it was quite interesting and >> >> fun. >> >> As Lex Eisenhardt mentioned, four or five of the people who >> recently >> >> published in Early Music were there as well, and Matanya Ophee >> too. >> >> A >> >> If any of you want to present or just listen it is best to >> approach >> >> Andreas or Gerhard with a proposal. They are quite keen to >> involve >> >> more >> >> researchers. I believe there is no website, but there is a rather >> >> active facebook page. >> >> ([1][1][10][21]https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/131072740286508/) >> >> A >> >> Best, Jelma van Amersfoort >> >> A >> >> A >> >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Lex Eisenhardt >> >> <[2][2][11][22]eisenha...@planet.nl> wrote: >> >> Some of you may have seen the 'guitar issues' of Early Music >> (41/4 >> >> A and >> >> 42/1). Some of the authors lectured at the 'Lake Konstanz' >> (Summit) >> >> meetings. >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> >> Van: [3][3][12][23]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu >> >> [mailto:[4][4][13][24]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens >> >> WALSH STUART >> >> Verzonden: dinsdag 24 juni 2014 11:54 >> >> Aan: Martyn Hodgson; Vihuela Dmth >> >> Onderwerp: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit >> >> On 24/06/2014 09:25, Martyn Hodgson wrote: >> >>> A A ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> >>> A A From: Martyn Hodgson <[5][5][14][25]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> A >> A >> >>> To: Monica Hall <[6][6][15][26]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> A A Sent: >> Tuesday, 24 >> >>> June 2014, 7:26 A A Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit A A >> >>> Thanks for this. >> >>> A A I was intrigued by the use of the word 'summit' which implied >> >> some >> >> sort >> >>> A A of self-proclaimed central authority! >> >> I think that would be about right. Surrounded by worshippers. >> >>> But from what you write, it seems >> >>> A A to be/have been more of a social event.... >> >>> A A Martyn >> >>> A A A >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> A A From: Monica Hall <[7][7][16][27]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> A A To: >> >>> Martyn Hodgson <[8][8][17][28]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> A A Cc: >> >>> Vihuelalist <[9][9][18][29]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> A A Sent: >> Monday, 23 >> >>> June 2014, 19:29 A A Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitar Summit A >> A >> >>> Well it was started a few years ago under the auspices of >> >> Matanya >> >>> A A Ophee. >> >>> A A Most of the people on it were continental - i.e. from >> >> Germany, >> >> and >> >> such >> >>> A A like >> >>> A A places. A They hold/held a summit meeting in Switzerland >> >> every >> >> two >> >>> A A years. >> >>> A A The last one was in 2012 I think. >> >>> A A There used to be a discussion list but messages I have sent >> >> have not >> >>> A A got >> >>> A A through and I haven't received any for ages. >> >>> A A Monica >> >>> A A ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> A A From: "Martyn Hodgson" >> <[1][10][10][19][30]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> >> >>> A A To: "Monica Hall" <[2][11][11][20][31]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; >> >> "Vihuelalist" >> >>> A A <[3][12][12][21][32]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> >>> A A Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 6:37 PM A A Subject: [VIHUELA] >> >>> Re: Guitar Summit A A > A To be frank Monica, I've never heard of >> >>> it! A What is/was >> >> it >> >> supposed >> >>> A A to >> >>> A A > A do? >> >>> A A > A Martyn >> >>> A A > >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >>> A A > >> >>> A A > A From: Monica Hall <[4][13][13][22][33]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> >> >>> A A > A To: Vihuelalist <[5][14][14][23][34]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> >>> A A > A Sent: Monday, 23 June 2014, 15:30 A A > A Subject: >> >>> [VIHUELA] Guitar Summit A A > A A I just wondered whether anyone >> >>> else on this list is on >> >> the Guitar >> >>> A A > A A Summit list and if so whether they ever get any >> >> messages. A I >> >>> A A haven't >> >>> A A > A A had any for months and was wondering whether it is >> >> defunct or >> >>> A A whether >> >>> A A > A I >> >>> A A > A A have been struck off! >> >>> A A > A A Thanks to all >> >>> A A > A A Monica >> >>> A A > A A -- >> >>> A A > A To get on or off this list see list information at A A >> > >> >> A >> >> >> [1][6][15][15][24][35]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index .htm >> l >> >>> A A > >> >>> A A > A -- >> >>> A A > >> >>> A A > References >> >>> A A > >> >>> A A > A 1. >> >> >> [7][16][16][25][36]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.ht ml >> >>> A A > >> >>> >> >>> A A -- >> >>> >> >>> References >> >>> >> >>> A A 1. mailto:[17][17][26][37]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk >> >>> A A 2. mailto:[18][18][27][38]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk >> >>> A A 3. mailto:[19][19][28][39]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu >> >>> A A 4. mailto:[20][20][29][40]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk >> >>> A A 5. mailto:[21][21][30][41]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu >> >>> A A 6. >> >> [22][22][31][42]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >>> A A 7. >> >> [23][23][32][43]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> >>> >> >>> >> >> --- >> >> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! >> Antivirus >> >> protection is active. >> >> [24][24][33][44]http://www.avast.com >> >> -- >> >> References >> >> 1. 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