Harry,

I need to remove myself from Vortex again in order to prevent further 
temptation to commit commentary.

I'll return after I have another progress report to make. One thing I've 
learned about my own R&D endeavors is that it's taking a LOT longer to manifest 
than what I had originally anticipated. I knew there would be delays, but not 
this much. The experience has given me a greater appreciation for just how long 
it's taking the fractious CF community to get their chickens lined up. Crossing 
the road is filled with risks. It's easy to get run over.

Please feel free to contact me privately via Email if you're interested in 
further correspondence. Speaking selfishly for myself, I hope you might be able 
to parse your interesting GIF animation down to more digestible chunks so that 
I can better follow the steps. There is a lot going on there.

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson
orionworks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
stevenvincentjohnson.bandcamp.com





From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 9:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

Harry,

Thanks for sharing your work on orbital mechanics geometry with me and with the 
rest of the Vort Collective.

Wow! That is a really fascinating animated geometric construct. Incredibly 
elaborate. You appear to be quite gifted in your ability to build complicated 
animation concepts. My complements! And now, here's my critique! (Don't worry. 
I'm still extremely impressed.)

I desperately wanted to be able to stop your animated gif at various points. 
There are many, MANY, lines and circles you are generating here as you try to 
get your point across. I keep getting lost. I can't keep up with what you are 
trying to reveal. I suspect your construct would be better understood and 
appreciated by the general public (and me too) if you could break the steps 
down into more digestible chunks. I would also recommend adding some 
descriptive wording here and there as you pause after something important has 
or is about to happen.

One lesson I've had to learn the hard way about my own Kepler related work is 
that we, the researcher, can become somewhat isolated (blinded) by the fact 
that if we throw a bunch of data too quickly at the novice observer, the person 
will not be able to follow all the steps. It's not their fault. It's just too 
much data for a novice to digest in one meal. When they get lost, they give up. 
We forget that in our own heads what now looks so utterly clear and simple to 
us still looks utterly confusing to a novice. We have spent weeks and months 
working out all the geometry in our own brain. The information has essentially 
become hardwired in our understanding of all the crucial geometry involved. 
Alas, a new observer has not yet had the chance to build such hardwiring into 
their own wetwiring. 

I'm interested in what you are attempting to reveal because I want to 
understand if there might exist a relationship with your work and mine. It 
would appear that my application of orbital mechanics geometry reveals very 
different things than what your geometry appears to reveal. My research into 
orbital mechanics geometry appears to reveal that VELOCITY vectors can be 
discerned directly out of Kepler's elliptic construct. All one has to do is add 
a little extra geometry, and suddenly it all becomes clear. One apparent 
difference between your work and mine is that my constructs appear to be more 
simplified. I'm aiming for the same kind of simplicity that Kepler revealed in 
his three famous laws. I think I have found that simplicity too. Two of the 
three additional laws (Laws 4 & 5) are actually already known to scholars. But 
their significance is not understood (or perceived) as additional Kepler laws. 
I want to rectify that. The third new law (law 6) is, to the best of my 
knowledge, unknown to the public domain. It shows how to use the empty foci to 
construct velocity measurements.

Steven Vincent Johnson
orionworks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
stevenvincentjohnson.bandcamp.com


From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

Steven, 

I know that in the past you have wondered if the second focus of an ellipse 
could have any role to play in the determination of orbits, since it plays no 
role in Kepler laws or in Newton's derivation of Kepler laws.  Well a few years 
ago, I invented a geometrical method in which the second focus of an ellipse is 
first located prior to determining the shape and size of an orbit. Information 
about speed and escape velocity is first mapped to positions on the 
circumference of a circle and this point is used to projectively locate the 
second focus (Fe) relative to the planet which is located at the first focus 
(Fp). Once the second focus is located the shape of orbit can be computed. 
However, my computations consist of geometric constructions and a gif animation 
which you can view here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_i-KDTRAy7I9q54g6H22shW7M5e-fj36Sva_seHj75Y/edit?usp=sharing
This method of drawing conic sections is not new, but I think how I use of this 
method is new.

Harry


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