The problem with this fusion idea is that it does not explain the subset of
LENR experiments that show fission is occurring. Can this theory explain
fission in LENR? I don't think so.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In particular, this paragraph seems to support my Balloon analogy for
> absorbing most of the high energy emissions into the lattice.
>
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>
>     "...as in the Mossbauer effect, through a real effect, implicit in the
> symmetry associated with rigid lattice translations that preserve periodic
> order, it is possible for a lattice to “recoil” elastically, as a whole, in
> response to a collision at a point. In the generalization of band theory
> [19] to many-body, finite systems, the same symmetry is invoked and leads
> to a huge degeneracy. Because indistinguishable particles are involved in
> these systems, implicitly, additional degeneracies are also present. The
> combined effects provide a means for particles to have appreciable overlap
> at many, periodically displaced “points” (as discussed below),
> simultaneously, for finite periods of time, in a manner that can result in
> new forms of collisions in which momentum is transferred from the locations
> where overlap can occur, rigidly to the lattice as a whole. When these
> idealized forms of motion are initiated by collisions resulting from the
> overlap between d’s in IBS’s, they can result in forms of coupling that can
> cause nuclear fusion to take place in which small amounts of momentum and
> energy from many different locations are transferred coherently to the
> solid as a whole and subsequently transferred to many different particles
> in a cooperative fashion. As a consequence, in agreement with experiment,
> the associated nuclear energy is predicted to be released without
> high-energy particles. "
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> In this old thread, we discussed BECs with Edmund Storms.   He
>> unsubscribed from Vortex soon after this interaction, hopefully I wasn't
>> the one who drove him off.
>>
>> Anyways, at the time I did not have access to Chubb's theory but now Jed
>> has uploaded his Ion Band State Theory (IBST)  paper onto Lenr-Canr.org
>>
>> It is compelling.   But I am disheartened that Jones Beene said it is
>> above his pay grade.   Now I think it is two layers above my pay grade.
>> It seems to cover all the bases and it uses conventional physics.
>>
>>
>> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChubbSRconvention.pdf
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation.
>>>>
>>> ***There have been some observances of radiation.  Not very much, but
>>> some.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hot fusion produces a mixture of energetic fragments of He.These are
>>>> two entirely different processes producing different products. The name is
>>>> only used to distinguish between the two different processes.
>>>>
>>> ***I think I see where the difference lies.  Let's say we had a million
>>> balloons all filled with air, and around those million balloons there is a
>>> lattice of tinker toys such that each balloon is boxed in.  Now, in the
>>> middle of all those balloons, you pop one of them.  Would you be able to
>>> hear the explosion?  Probably not, because the emitted energy would be
>>> absorbed by the lattice & other baloons.  Similarly, with billions of H
>>> atoms trapped in Palladium lattices, when 2 of them fuse, the emitted
>>> energy gets absorbed by the lattice.  That's how we end up with
>>> transmutations.
>>>
>>> But if you had a million balloons in a big room (with no tinker toy
>>> lattice) and you exploded 50,000 of them at one time, would you hear the
>>> explosion?  Yes.  The emitted energy would not be fully absorbed by the
>>> surrounding matter, and indeed could even lead to further explosions &
>>> emissions.  That's the difference between cold fusion (tinker toy lattice,
>>> only very few fusion events) and hot fusion (no tinker toy lattice,
>>> thousands of fusion events leading up to a large emission of energy).
>>>
>>> Imposing the conclusions of hot fusion emitted energy onto cold fusion
>>> emitted energy is where your observation loses its validity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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