Jones— You are too cynical IMHO. LENR is a tough engineering problem. LENR+ is much tougher. The Nautilus did not break ice at the North Pole on a shoestring budget . The modern Navy has had a long time to work on LENR+ with more than a shoestring budget. Chubb was part of the Navy for a long time.
I think the difficult engineering is pretty well done, although not yet available to your dying group of researchers, which are more and more in number from my perspective. . The Pd-D system is a red herring IMHO, a bit of a distraction. The Establishment with its energy model is doing its best to poo-poo the LENR+ Ni alloy, nano fuel systems. I too will become cynical, if the Establishment is successful. I hope that globalism with its multinational corporations and global energy Establishment will succumb to a new nationalism with a competitive driver that thumbs its nose at the multinational corporate elite with their focus on generation of wealth with diminaimus trickle-down to the populous. An interesting essay regarding this potential situation can be found at the following link: The New Class War - American Affairs Journal<https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiCpurupJPUAhVJ4WMKHfDBAXoQFggiMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanaffairsjournal.org%2F2017%2F05%2Fnew-class-war%2F&usg=AFQjCNF0C9d7urlOoVLooc8QkmXMofDUZQ> Bob Cook Bob Cook Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Jones Beene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature Kevin, Storm's theory is partly right, but mostly lacking - and he has had little new to add this century... as is that of Chubb (partly right) and others including Takahashi, but they are mostly incomplete and let's face it - the field is dying. Your balloon analogy is helpful as well but much more is needed. The theorists are mostly wrong because they have not given us a clue which leads to a robust experiment to scientifically prove the effect. Here is the best experiment, sad to say. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RouletteTresultsofi.pdf The intractable problem in cold fusion is that this "hero effort" - the very best result to have occurred in 28 years was itself little more than a yawner. People tend to forget that this result (almost 300 MJ of gain) was statistically very close to a null result in total (as an average) and it did not point the way to a useful device. The "Roulette" paper covers seven simultaneous runs of which 5 failed completely. They ran for a long time – up to 152 days… and the one with biggest net gain (the hero effort) did not see any excess energy at all for the first 60 days! No wonder funding dried up. Fig. 7 of that paper shows that the average gain of the effort at about one watt (low average due to the failed runs). So there you have it - the field of LENR is a dying angel... in need of a tourniquet, as they say. Kevin O'Malley wrote: > Anyways, at the time I did not have access to Chubb's theory but now Jed has uploaded his Ion Band State Theory (IBST) paper onto Lenr-Canr.org
