The former will take more time, but the latter have already been given. Stiffler replication | variant "JLN Patent" replication | variant Edwin Gray Imris Pavel and probably Testatika
A list of course is not much use, I have however already detailed these in 2 posts so far... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com>wrote: > Refs please. > > Michel > > 2009/6/23 John Berry <aethe...@gmail.com>: > > > Given the evidence that both of these effects exist, both the electron > being > > ejected and arcs creating excess energy... > >
