At 03:44 PM 10/27/2010, Jones Beene wrote:
Speaking of Q-Zeno & Q-Foam
<http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-san-francisco/scientists-may-have-found-gold-water>http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-san-francisco/scientists-may-have-found-gold-water
I'm going to put some material posted to the private CMNS mailing
list here, because the author stated, in response to my mention that
material posted there might not be kept confidential:
I intend this material to be public. This is too important and I
feel the public as a right to know.
The reference to the above page, cited by Jonas, appeared on the CMNS
list the same day as the article came out.
Since there has started, here, some speculation and response, based
on very incomplete information, I'm copying here the actual posts of
"Mark LeCair" to that list. I will redact any quotations from others,
because, in general, posts to that list are confidental and should be
so treated. But anyone may consent to the release of their own
writing, and I might quote some of my own.
Before starting, I must say that I have personally found adequate
cause to doubt absolutely everything that Mark LeGrand has said. Note
"doubt." I have no proof, only suspicion arising from a mass of
details found when I researched this, it was enough for me to warn
the CMNS list and the researchers that there could be some severe
problems with this. Some of what Mark has said has been confirmed,
but some of that turns out to be less impressive than what he may have claimed.
I will comment on this with a separate mail.
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:20:12 EDT
Subject: CMNS: NanoSpire Article
This is our first posting to the group. This should get the
discussion rolling.
<http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-san-francisco/scientists-may-have-found-gold-water>http://www.examiner.com/technology-in-san-francisco/scientists-may-have-found-gold-water
Regards,
Mark L. LeClair
CEO & Founder
NanoSpire, Inc.
Ph.: 207.929.6226
<http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-leclair/10/61/349>http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mark-leclair/10/61/349
[I'll leave off the signature for the rest of the posts.]
[I responded, noting the importance of caution in dealing with this
material. I was generally accepting the possibility that the report
from the article could be true.]
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:41:40 EDT
Subject: Re: CMNS: NanoSpire Article
Fair enough. It was designed to get the word out, a heads up. There
were a few inaccuracies and misquotes, but we didn't write the
article. I never claimed that the material was "peer reviewed" in
the sense of jounal publications, but it was reviewed by many
top-tier scientists.
I was sickened, along with Serge, in two separate experiments. We
barely survived the first set of experiments, this is no laughing
matter. The day after the experiment, Serge showed symptoms first,
vomiting and diarrhea. A day later, I was in the same boat. For two
days, we both had to fight to breath, I was convinced I was going to
die. My wife and children witnessed both of our symptoms, Serge
stayed with us for months before he was well enough to return home
to Cleveland. I lost about one third of my hair. I had beta burn on
my skin. I was sore down the entire length of the right side of my
body, the side facing the experiment. Blood tests showed that my
white blood cells were nearly wiped out. McMaster University did SKY
radiation dosimetry on us gratis, and found multiple chromosome
breaks and translocations in both of us and concluded it was
plausible it was caused by radiation damage. For five months, we had
no ability to thermoregulate our body temperature, which would swing
from 95 degrees up to 101 degrees, back and forth over the course of
minutes. I had to cal 911 when Serge passed out from a 95 degree
body temperature. The first responders did not even dare to enter
the lab to carry him out. Over the course of months, we both lost
the linings of our intestines. This was particularly disturbing
since GI problems associated with radiation are the sign of a near
fatal dose. Every object within two meters of the experiment was
laced with nuclear tracks.
The experiment triggered massive transmutation of the elements,
conformed by extensive SEM-EDAX, XPS and LA-ICP-MS mass spec. Ninety
different elements were detected in large amounts (grams), inluding
the presence of many short-lived isotopes. The isotope ratios were
indentical to those found in supernovas, and did not resemble
natural abundances at all. The transmuted particles were so hot,
they cooked the polystyrene dishes they were placed in, turning the
bottom nearly opaque with nuclear tracks that formed a ring around
the bottom of the dish.
This is only a small sample of what happened. A warning to you all,
anyone spending more than a few hours next to this device would end up dead.
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:27:21 EDT
Subject: CMNS: The LeClair Effect
I have decided to release a synopsis on the basis of our experiments:
Utilization of Crystallized Cavitation Reentrant Jets
for Zero Point Energy Production
[This was edited and resent, the versions have been merged below with
completely redundant paragraphs only shown once]
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:27:07 EDT
Subject: CMNS: NanoSpire Zero Point Energy Experiment Synopsis
Fusion was only a byproduct of the zero point energy release. I have
eliminated the redundant paragraph and added material on the pH of the crystal:
[Both versions:]
Utilization of Crystallized Cavitation Reentrant Jets
for Zero Point Energy Production
Proprietary discoveries have been made by Mark LeClair, CEO of
NanoSpire, Inc., with the assistance of Serge Lebid (EVP NanoSpire),
for the practical generation of zero point energy by cavitation
reentrant jets. It is believed that there are two separate energy
generation mechanisms at work in cavitation, zero point energy and
cavitation induced fusion. This could explain cavitation driven
ultrasonic, electrolysis cell and hydrodynamic cavitation based cold
fusion, where there was excess energy, but no apparent radioactive
release or byproducts. The focus of our research is to perform
quantitative studies on the efficiency of scaled up energy
production of LeClair's recently discovered zero point energy
cavitation phenomena, driven by a newly discovered species of H2O
that is a powerfully charged, macrocationic crystal, also produced
by cavitation dynamics. The research will also offer insight into
two newly proposed cavitation reentrant jet material erosion
mechanisms driving and enhancing cold fusion.
[first version:]
Crystallized, macroionic cavitation reentrant jets have been
observed during investigation of directed cavitation reentrant jet
machining in water. It is proposed that the extreme pressure and
temperature of cavitation bubble collapse is compressing dissociated
water byproducts H+ and OH- ions at the bubble interface into solid
macrocationic H2O crystals possessing an equilateral triangle
crystalline subunit. Crystal cross-sections can be equilateral
triangles, hexagons, or hybrids of triangles and hexagons. The
crystal has enormous positive electrostatic charge concentration,
inducing a negative charge on nearby objects. Electrostatic
attraction then imbeds the crystal with great force, revealing the
crystal's faceted structure. The crystals can be linear or helical,
with large bacteriophage-like icosahedral shaped heads and long whip
tails. A crystal can join head to toe, forming loops that can twist
and supercoil, like DNA. A new diamond-like stacked tetrahedral SP3
H2O orbital structure is proposed, based on the crystal's subunit
equilateral triangular structure and dissociated water composition.
Macrocationic, crystallized cavitation reentrant jets have been
observed during investigation of directed cavitation reentrant jet
machining in water. The extreme pressure and temperature of
cavitation bubble collapse is compressing dissociated water H+ and
OH- ions at the bubble interface into solid, faceted macroionic
crystals possessing an equilateral triangle crystalline subunit.
Crystal cross-sections can be equilateral triangles, regular or
oval-shaped hexagons, twinned crystals such as hourglasses, or
hybrids of triangles and hexagons. The crystal has enormous positive
electrostatic charge concentration and induces a negative charge on
the surface of any nearby object. Electrostatic attraction then
imbeds the crystal with great force, imprinting the crystal's
faceted structure into the object. The crystal is short-lived,
typically persisting for a few microseconds in water, isolated by a
supercavitating water vapor column at near vacuum conditions. A 200
micron diameter crystal survived several milliseconds of supersonic
free flight for seven meters in air, leaving a faceted impact
signature on a paper target seven meters away. The crystal does not
persist in an aqueous environment and is quickly destroyed. The
crystals can be linear or helical strands, with large
bacteriophage-like icosahedral shaped heads and abrupt, long narrow
whip tails. The crystal strands can join head to toe, forming coils
that can also supercoil, like DNA. A new diamond-like tetrahedral
SP3 orbital structure is proposed, based on the crystal's subunit
equilateral triangular structure and dissociated water composition.
The proposed molecular structure makes the crystal twice as strong
as a diamond and slightly denser than ordinary water. Sinusoidal
reentrant jet buckling data used with the Euler equation indicates
that the crystal is ten times stiffer than tungsten. The crystal is
proposed to be the template that created life and offers new
theories and insights on the controversial subjects of cavitation
based fusion and zero point energy.
[second version]
Macrocationic, crystallized cavitation reentrant jets have been
observed during investigation of directed cavitation reentrant jet
machining in water. The extreme pressure and temperature of
cavitation bubble collapse is compressing dissociated water H+ and
OH- ions at the bubble interface into solid, faceted macroionic
crystals possessing an equilateral triangle crystalline subunit.
Crystal cross-sections can be equilateral triangles, regular or
oval-shaped hexagons, twinned crystals such as hourglasses, or
hybrids of triangles and hexagons. The crystal has enormous positive
electrostatic charge concentration and induces a negative charge on
the surface of any nearby object. Electrostatic attraction then
imbeds the crystal with great force, imprinting the crystal's
faceted structure into the object.
The crystal has zero pH as a result of it's molecular geometry,
placing the protons outboard. Tests firing the crystal into litmus
paper showed hexagonal faceted impacts that turned green litmus
paper brilliant red and orange litmus purple, both indicators of zero pH.
The crystal is short-lived, typically persisting for a few
microseconds in water, isolated by a supercavitating water vapor
column at near vacuum conditions. A 200 micron diameter crystal
survived several milliseconds of supersonic free flight for seven
meters in air, leaving a faceted impact signature on a paper target
seven meters away. The crystal does not persist in an aqueous
environment and is quickly destroyed. The crystals can be linear or
helical strands, with large bacteriophage-like icosahedral shaped
heads and abrupt, long narrow whip tails. The crystal strands can
join head to toe, forming coils that can also supercoil, like DNA. A
new diamond-like tetrahedral SP3 orbital structure is proposed,
based on the crystal's subunit equilateral triangular structure and
dissociated water composition. The proposed molecular structure
makes the crystal twice as strong as a diamond and slightly denser
than ordinary water. Sinusoidal reentrant jet buckling data used
with the Euler equation indicates that the crystal is ten times
stiffer than tungsten. The crystal is proposed to be the template
that created life and offers new theories and insights on the
controversial subjects of cavitation based fusion and zero point energy.
[both versions:]
It has been observed that electrostatic and Casimir force attraction
of the leading face of the crystallized, macrocationic H2O
cavitation microjets to their own incandescent supersonic shock wave
causes the crystal microjet to accelerate and steer towards the
induced negative charge on conductive surfaces and even poorly
conductive surfaces, such as glass and plastic. The crystallized
cavitation reentrant jets melt or vaporize anomalously long trenches
that produce thermal energy released into the surrounding liquid or
gaseous environment. The energy released is well in excess of all
applied energy, more than 11,000X the initial kinetic energy of the microjet.
The material removed in the long, semi-hexagonal trenches also
greatly exceeds the amount of material removed in a normal impact of
the jet into a surface that forms a pit, by a factor of 5000X, based
on highly accurate ASTM-G32 cavitation erosion resistance data that
also forms a baseline for conservation of microjet initial kinetic
energy. Because of the resemblance of the long carved trench to the
wake (the trench) left behind a whaling boat (the crystal) being
pulled by a harpooned whale (the Casimir force and electrostatic
attraction), the phenomena (properly called the LeClair-Casimir
Effect) has been dubbed, "The Nantucket Sleigh Ride" (NSR).
The leading face of crystal and bow shock are in sub-micron
proximity, their closely spaced conductive faces, separated by a
near vacuum, satisfy the conditions for forming a resonant quantum
harmonic oscillator, producing the Casimir force. The Casimir force,
along with electrostatic attraction, cause the bow shock to draw the
crystal towards it, this propels the crystal. The Casimir force
extracts zero point energy as a result of the Heisenberg zero point
electron cloud positional fluctuation of the closely spaced
conductive surfaces. This results in a harmonically coupled charge
fluctuation of the two conductive surfaces. The resulting Casimir
force exerts a net attraction that constantly disappears and
reappears in random locations between the crystal face and the bow
shock, as the crystal moves and time progresses. No resultant force
opposes the acceleration of the crystal because of the random, zero
point momentum fluctuations of the electrons producing the
attractive Casimir force, thereby violating Newton's law f=ma and
the conservation of energy.
Acceleration results from the positive feedback generated by bow
shock compression: the closer the bow shock, the stronger the
attraction from both the Casimir effect and electrostatic attraction
and the faster the crystal goes. The faster the crystal goes, the
more the bow shock compresses, raising attraction further.
Acceleration is evidenced by increasing width trenches.
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:21:44 EDT
Subject: Re: CMNS: The LeClair Effect
My theories are based on many different types of corroborating data
& observations that I intend to eventually publish. But I will
continue in a string of e-mails to provide you all with enough to
review for now that I am willing to release to try and get you all
up to speed, in order to make a better assessment.
The mechanics of the LeClair Effect (Nantucket Sleigh Ride) in a nut
shell is that the crystal accelerates up to relativistic speeds and
the nucleosynthesis occurs on the face of the bow shock as it plows
through the material. The combination of pressure and temperature
reach conditions on the shock that are the same as those seen on the
shock wave of a supernova and necessary to synthesize elements
heavier than iron and nickle (the limit of exothermic fusion). The
experimental results show that the elemental distributions of our
experiment followed the odd-even rule of stellar nucleosynthesis,
with more of the even numbered elements forming because of alpha
particle addition during fusion. Furthermore, the particles all
showed an inverse relationship between their carbon content and the
amounts of the other heavier elements formed. As the carbon content
dropped, the oxygen content rose, as the oxygen created was
depleted, the amount of the other elements formed in direct
proportion, all the way up the periodic table (see attached
transmutation diagram). The transmutation data is from EDAX analysis
performed by Ed Storms, University of Maine Orono and Media
Sciences. The isotopic ratio data (attached diagram of isotope
ratios) is LA-ICP-MS done by Evans Analytical Co., on the same
particles. Twelve experiments total were done by Serge and I, the
transmutation and isotope data is from all of them.
The optical pictures of the transmuted particles are quite beautiful
and startling, as are the abundant and crystal clear nuclear tracks
that were seen in polystyrene (a future transmission).
(attachments: Isotope graph.doc, Tranmutation diagram.doc [sic])
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:00:16 EDT
Subject: CMNS: NanoSpire Mass Spec Data
The LA-ICP-MS (Laser Ablative Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spec)
data, analysis performed on the transmuted particles by Evans
Analytical, is one serious eye opener. We used only aluminum and DI water.
(attachment: S09ZG644_report.pdf)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:31:43 EDT
Subject: Re: CMNS: The LeClair Effect
I intend this material to be public. This is too important and I
feel the public as a right to know. Our motivation is not as
commercially motivated as you might think. At this point, Serge and
I have probably sustained permanent injuries, and both feel we have
an uncertain future health-wise. We have literally risked our lives
for the betterment of mankind. Serge and I have always been
altruistic and are two of the most honest people you or anyone else
will ever know. We both worked in some of the most critical programs
in the US government. I was the expert in hydrodynamics on the
underwater launch of the Trident I & II missiles at Lockheed in the
Fluid Mechanics Group 81-11, that had a reputation rivaling
Skunkworks. Serge has served this country in many ways that can't be
discussed. His nephew, Phillip Lebid, was a Secret Service agent and
sacrificed himself at age 30 to save a bus load of kids. Phillip was
very behind what we are doing and we miss him greatly.
As far as precautions go, this was a zero point energy experiment
meant to show that fusion was not the driver behind this effect and
I was not expected to happen. I was anticipating speeds of 20,000
mph, not 0.5+ c. We had a Geiger counter to try and show fusion
wasn't happening. The gamma, alpha and beta only rose about 20%
above ambient levels. It was consistent and there seemed to be no
cause for concern. We didn't know we had transmuted elements until
well into the experimental regimen. Apparent neutron tracks in
polystyrene indicates a large neutron flux was present, but that I
determined after the experiments. The scary thing about a supernova
driven process is the intense release of neutrinos, 99% of the
energy of a supernova, only 1% is visible or detectable. You cant
shield against these. Most pass through without interaction, but the
flux of neutrinos coming out of a supernova is something like 10^52
neutrinos total. No living creature on earth has been exposed to a
large neutrino flux since a mass extinction 440 million years ago,
that wiped out 80% of all life and has lately been attributed to a
supernova because of the presence of radioisotopes in the ancient crust.
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:40:15 EDT
Subject: CMNS: NanoSpire U ME Orono EDAX and XPS transmutation data
The core of the experiments were 10-50% covered with what appeared
to be glass but later proved to be a film of diamond, based on
SEM-EDAX and particularly the XPS results. In one experiment this
happened in less than thirty seconds. The large carbon spike is that
of diamond, the much smaller adjacent carbon spike is that of free
carbon, based on their different binding energies. The image of the
core geometry could be seen as a reflected image burned into itself
in the form of diamond. All the other elements were imbedded into
the diamond matrix in a wild variety of shapes, rods, plates, crystals, etc.
The diamond coating was produced by the sequence of hydrogen fusing
into helium, which then tri-alpha fused into carbon. Carbon and
oxygen were by far the most abundant elements in the transmuted
particles, just like white dwarf composition. Many were in the form
of tiny spheres and clusters of spheres that were indentical to
chondrules, themselves thought to form in supernova explosions.
In response to some of the other questions, the crystals ranged in
size from 20 up to 200 microns in diameter, and from 1 to several cm
in length. The largest crystal I have ever formed was a centimeter
in diameter. The crystal is known mostly from it's many fossil
imprints, that show the facets arranged in a rich variety of shapes.
Hexagons occur 80% of the time, equilateral triangles 10-15% and the
other shapes the remainder. Some are cylindrical crystals, others
look like a bacteriophage. They have also been observed to form
closed loops and electrostatically imbed itself as figure eights
(attached). My favorite is the crystal chasing it's own tail,
carving a perfect circular trench in aluminum, a few mm across
(attached). You can see the tail sweep to the outside as it accelerates.
Another very critical aspect to all of this, that answers another
question about what happens during impact. I have derived the first
general equation for cavitation erosion, using a combination of
classical and quantum theory. Previous attempts by others to do this
failed miserably, often accurate for one material but off by a
factor of 300 for others. My equation is 98% accurate for all
materials. I have included the effect of van der Waals repulsion
during impact. A problem with a pedigree, both Lord Kelvin and Lord
Rayleigh tried to solve this problem without success, and all modern
day researchers have come up short as well. My equation has bee
thoroughly validated against ASTM cavitation erosion data for 22
different materials. It spits out a pressure term for a thin layer
at the surface at the moment of impact that can range into the
thousands of gigapascals for harder materials. This, plus a few
thousand degree C impact temperature, is thermodynamically
sufficient to ignite a small amount of D-D fusion during ordinary
cavitation reentrant jet impact into the hardest materials. Under
LeClair Effect conditions, this is quickly surpassed as the crystal
accelerates. All previous researchers into cavitation related fusion
erroneously use the Bernoulli Equation, which is only applicable to
steady flows, not unsteady flows like sudden impact. The additional
terms in the Navier Stokes Equation come into play, raising even the
erroneous"classical" approach pressure predictions to 50-80% more
than Bernoulli's 160,000 psi would suggest. The correct pressure is
well in excess of a gigapascal for all impacts, for the thin zone at
the surface where van der Waals predominates. Our understanding of
all types of cavitation phenomena and erosion at NanoSpire is very
far ahead of the rest of the field. Take a look at my issued patents
to control cavitation reentrent jet formation and dynamics, that
formed the basis for generating and controlling fusion. We used one
of the geometries shown in the patents, but any of them will work:
LeClair, M. L., Method and Apparatus for the Controlled Formation of
Cavitation Bubbles. US Patent No. 6,960,307 issued Nov. 1, 2005.
LeClair, M. L., Method and Apparatus for the Controlled Formation of
Cavitation Bubbles Using Target Bubbles. US Patent No. 6,932,914
issued Aug. 23, 2005.
LeClair, M. L., Method and Apparatus for the Controlled Formation of
Cavitation Bubbles Using Target Bubbles. US Patent No. 7,297,288
issued Nov. 20, 2007.
LeClair, M. L., Method and Apparatus for the Controlled Formation of
Cavitation Bubbles. US Patent No. 7,517,430 issued April. 14, 2009.
[Attachments: 2009-08XPSanalysis.pdf, 2009-Aug UMO LASST
NanospireEDSStandardlessQuantification.pdf, crystal chases tail.pdf,
supercoil.doc]
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:55:47 EDT
Subject: Re: CMNS: NanoSpire Zero Point Energy Experiment Synopsis
It is a massively charged macrocation with a small negative zone at
the tail. It will imbed iteself into your flesh in a very unpleasant
way from rest at beyond the speed of a bullet, just from
electrostatic attraction to the nearby induced charge.
In the aqueous environment of cavitation, it is constantly
surrounded by a near vacuum water vapor column during travel (vapor
pressure of the liquid, 0.5 psi for water), so it doesn't touch the
liquid during supercavitating free-flight.
Because it can form closed loops, I believe it has covalently linked
along O-H bonds in the axial direction and with hydrogen bonds in
the plane. It is not H+ or H++, which can not form a loop. I
strongly believe "the crystal" is (H2O)n, a polymerized form of
water (sound familiar?).
About this time the last of my assume-good-faith fuses blew. The
reference to polywater went completely over the top, leading me to
what may indeed be a paranoid view of what was going on. Just because
you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you.
At this point, also, a respected cold fusion researcher, who had
prior knowledge of this research, pointed out to Mark that his claims
(about mechanism, etc.) were not supported by the evidence. And then,
hiaving considered it carefully, I posted a warning that this whole
thing might be a hoax, and gave some evidence for that. But I did not
actually accuse Mark of dishonesty. There are other possibilities,
including that he really did suffer from severe radiation sickness
and wasn't necessarily thinking clearly. What happened, though, then,
was not at all surprising, under almost any scenario.
Subject: Re: CMNS: Warning, NanoSpire announcement probable hoax
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:23:34 -0400
Abd:
I'm very insulted that you think this is a hoax. Talk about
premature, you shoot from the hip and are too quick to judge before
seeing the rest of the evidence. NanoSpire does alot more than just
machining. To set the facts straight, David Nagel had agreed in 2005
to be one of my Ph.D advisors, on this topic, along with Prof.
William Durgin (at the time, Associate Provost, now Provost of Cal
Poly), Grant McGimpsey and Dave Adams of WPI. Provost Durgin (who
was my mentor in fluid dynamics) spoke with the investors who funded
this research on our behalf, helping to win the grant. The grantor
prefers to remain unnamed. Media Sciences performed SEM-EDAX for us
gratis. It was Dave Nagel described the data he saw at the time as
"a feast". Dr. Storms we have a great deal of respect for. Dave
Nagel and NanoSpire no longer see eye to eye for reasons I would
rather not discuss. Mark Albertson is the TV producer for Tech
Closeup, that has 40 million viewers and did a superb job of writing
the article. I was featured on Tech Closeup several years ago
because of my prominence in nanotechnology. I have attached two
commendations, one from Lockheed, the other for the Director, to
defend my honor. While at Lockheed, I also won their Superior
Performace Award and was named employee of the month, in a company
with 100,000 employees. I am highly regarded for both my integrity
and my capabilities and I'm well known to many prominent scientists
who would tell you to your face about just how wrong you are.
[attachments: MLL Lockheed Commendation.JPG, MLL Lockheed Commendation.JPG]
apparently there was private correspondence between Mark and a
researcher which Mark then posted to the list. I am redacting the
name of that researcher. I am taking the liberty of quoting the
short text from that researcher, to show Mark's response in context.
Subject: Re: CMNS: Warning, NanoSpire announcement probable hoax
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:45:41 -0400
[redacted]
At this point, enough material has been downloaded to the CMNS
members to spark the interest of those who wish to pursue it. Since
the issue is obviouosly controversal and in consideration for your
kind help, anyone wishing to collaborate or have other comments may
contact me directly at
<mailto:mlecl...@nanospireinc.com>mlecl...@nanospireinc.com and we
will take this discussion offline. Thanks.
Mark L. LeClair
-----Original Message-----
From:[redacted]
To: cfdas...@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Oct 27, 2010 11:15 am
Subject: Re: CMNS: Warning, NanoSpire announcement probable hoax
On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:52 AM, <mailto:cfdas...@aol.com>cfdas...@aol.com wrote:
[redacted]
Thanks. A CEO from a well known CEO of a cold fusion firm just
called to inform me that they were attacked by this abd, they
claimed that it is not one person, but instead a composite e-mail
based on their investigations, consisting of more than one person,
who take turns shooting people down in the field.
This is not true. Abd does not shoot people down in the CF field and
he is one person. However, he does analyze what is claimed and
renders an opinion, sometimes negative. In your case, he went too far.
I appreciate your offer for help to publish, and will probably take
you up on the offer in the future. I know this is just one
incredible discovery piled on top of another and hard for most to
swallow. I do plan on submitting it one piece at a time. I based my
theories on my observations, not shear speculation.
Theories are ALWAYS based on imagination and speculation. Don't kid
yourself that a theory has any reality. The best theories are only
a good description of how nature works most of the time. Unless a
person has a very broad education in science, his theory will be
highly flawed and easily shot down. Even the present theories that
are accepted, such as quantum mechanics, have many flaws people
enjoy pointing out.
I see hypothesis and theory as an essential part of the scientific
method, otherwise experiments are just trial and error and don't
always lead to the right conclusions. Theory is meant to get the
ball rolling, if it doesn't work with experimental results, you
either modify it or abandon it. Einstein once said that theory is a
flower that should be nurtured, so it is not destroyed before it
has a chance to grow.
You are right, theory is the map used to extrapolate ideas and to
show a relationship to other observations. However, like all maps,
they are highly subjective until a great deal of surveying is
done. Therefore, you need to show what you experienced in great
derail and with suitable recognition of error before you attempt to
explain in public. What you believe in the privacy of your lab is
your business, which should not be discussed in public without
considerable supporting evidence.
I responded to this mail, making it clear that I wasn't trying to
prove dishonesty or fraud, but was pointing out what I saw as a
danger, a "possible hoax," which, in practice, could include a body
of report that is so incorrect as to be deceptive. I said all along
that if Mark and his friend did indeed experience radiation sickness,
with the symptoms described, and with the other effects reported,
this was an extremely important discovery, so important, in fact,
that it has major national security implications, but I also pointed
out why this was also unlikely, which I won't do here, in this mail.
I gave Mark some advice on the assumption that the reports were real:
don't lead with a theory that overturns everything that scientists
understand! Lead with fact. I advised keeping silent on
world-view-changing theory until the facts are established. Instead,
identify with the skeptics, but, doggone it! these were my
experimental results.... This is the same advice as the researcher
mentioned above gave to Mark, which may be why he thanks me.
The next communication on the list from Mark:
Subject: Re: CMNS: Warning, NanoSpire announcement probable hoax
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:00:32 -0400
Abd:
What is awry here is Mother Nature, thanks for your response.
However, he's posted some more, about my "probable hoax" warning. Not
important here. I don't believe that anything above constitutes a
claim of hoax. It is a description of how I thought, the little that
I say about that.
