>At the end, when the water input valve is opened, then a mixture out of water >and steam comes out with remarkable pressure. >Now, how can we have pressure when the steam outlet is still open?
This troubled me too and I found it unexplainable until I thought that the valve, valve stem and metal were probably hot from having been previously heated by heater core. If their temperature had'nt dropped below 100C there could be considerable flahing to steam upon exit of water through the valve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Heckert To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik Am 14.09.2011 08:55, schrieb Peter Gluck: a) See the E-cat run in the self sustaining mode http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3264362.ece Here my Analysis: At the end, when the water input valve is opened, then a mixture out of water and steam comes out with remarkable pressure. Now, how can we have pressure when the steam outlet is still open? Answer: The steam outlet is not open. Probably there is a pressure reduction valve in the oulet. This opens at 1-2 bar pressure and it closes when the pressure sinks. This means inside the ecat is always 1-2 bar overpressure. Saturated steam temperatures versus pressure tabulated: (This is the over-pressure that is more than air pressure) 1 bar -> 120.2° 1.5 bar -> 127.4° 2.0 bar -> 133.5° 2.5 bar -> 138.9° Now this explains why water and steam come out. Water comes out and it has a temperature of 120°. Wenn it flows out it will vaporize partially and produce steam. This also explains the water output flow at the steam hose: The steam inside of the ecat has a pressure between 1 and 2 bar and a temperature between 120 and 133 centigrade. When the steam passes the pressure reduction valve then it will expand to air (over) pressure of 0 bar. To do this, work must be done and the steam will cool down to 100° and partially condensate. This explains the output water flow at the steam outlet. So far my qualitative steam & temperature & pressure analysis. There is one thing that irritated me. When they show the e-cat in self-sustained mode, then I cannot hear the pump anymore. Did they stop the pump and why? Best, Peter