You forget that not all ancient scientists and craftmans where geniuses.
Most of them where not.
Quack. fraud and absolutel strange and wrong theories and false
explanations where everywhere.
They kept everything secret (as Rossi does) and didnt collaborate but
competed (as Rossi does).
I have delivered a perfect explanation how to fake the energy (sucking
water out by vacuum and a hidden switch that activates the heater when
nobody watches the power) and you consistently ignore it or you make up
weak excuses to explain it away.
Think about Theodore Sturgeons law: 98% of everything is crap.
This is very true.
Am 04.11.2011 23:48, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
Peter Heckert <peter.heck...@arcor.de <mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de>>
wrote:
I'm sure he would say "go ahead and ignore that if you like;
just look at the physical facts."
If he does it this way, then he cannot know the difference between
a random effect, a systematic measurement error or a real physical
fact. How can he know, if he doesnt care about repeatable and
predictable precision?
That does not follow at all. You are ignoring the whole history of
technology up to the late 19th century.
For the last 30,000 years, craftsmen and technicians have depended
entirely on observations and physical tests of materials. A Japanese
swordsman makes a superb blade using entirely what he sees and smells,
such as the incandescent color of the workpiece. These craftsmen were
as systematic as any modern scientist or engineer. That is why they
were able to do superb metallurgy and build cathedrals without any
knowledge of modern physics or chemistry.
The people who made Damascus steel and Japanese swords had no
knowledge that oxygen exists and absolutely no grasp of physics but
they were able to do things that modern metallurgists still do not
fully understand. Any metallurgist stands in awe of these ancient
people. I have seen videos of Japanese sword makers at work and I
assure you they are as methodical as anyone can be. They use no
numbers at all. They have no modern instruments. They deal entirely in
real physical effects, not measurements in the modern sense. They have
tremendous knowledge, and it is accurate and true, but it is not in
same form as modern scientific knowledge.
Rossi's methods more resemble those of ancient craftsmen more than
modern scientists'. That makes it all the more astounding -- and
admirable -- that he has succeeded.
Your notion that people cannot be scientific without number crunching
is typical of the ahistorical view of modern people. You should learn
how people did things 100 years ago, or 500 years ago. Your ancestors
knew far more than you give them credit for and they were much more
methodical and scientific than people appreciate. Look at the
buildings and objects and works of art they left us, and you see proof
of that.
He will fall victim to parasitic and random errors and instead
developing energy he will develop a method for systematic false
measurements.
You cannot have false measurements when you do not use instruments to
measure things.
Sword makers, cooks, soldiers, farmers, artists, potters working with
glazes, and many others people understood temperatures by various
direct means such as color, the consistency of materials, or melting
minerals (the sort of thing a modern potter uses in a kiln). They did
that for thousands of years before thermometers were invented.
Modern science began in 1600, but people have been using scientific,
logical methods informed by facts about nature for thousands of years.
If you showed Rossi's device to an ancient craftsmen, he would
instantly grasp the significance of it. It would be obvious to him.
Ancient people understood that you cannot keep something hot without
fire, and fire consumes fuel at fixed ratio to the heat. That why they
they celebrated the Hanukkah miracle (the festival of lights). They
understood perfectly well that a candle cannot burn for many days
without exhausting the fuel. In fact, they understood better than many
modern physicists.
I am sure the Hanukkah miracle did not actually occur. it must have
been been an exaggeration or a misunderstanding. The point is, people
thought it occurred, and they recognized it would be a miracle.
Nowadays, modern physicists and the people here wave their hands and
make up excuses to explain away Rossi's 4 hours of heat after death.
That is like trying to to explain away oil candles burning for eight
days with a 1 day supply of fuel. It is grotesque that people do not
instantly see this must be an anomaly.
- Jed
