On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:

>
> I would have thought with my clear statements about using extremely
> intense magnetic fields and smashing particles head on at extremely high
> velocities, it would have been obvious that I was referring to something
> specific,
>

What  specific, exactly?



> and not a ‘general’ concept of resonance.  Why does nuclear physics use
> (BRUTE FORCE) particle accelerators?  Because they are boxed in by the
> thought that the ONLY way to overcome the coulomb barrier is extreme
> force.
>

You know, you don't need much energy (on the scale of accelerators) to
overcome the Coulomb barrier; that's why you can buy bench top neutron
sources that use ordinary fusion produced by accelerating deuterons through
a simple electric field. The energy in big accelerators is needed to
produce more exotic reactions and particles that don't exist in nature
(except in stars or supernovae).

Well, ya, that certainly is one way, but my point is that one could achieve
> the same end using much more modest energies if the device used resonance.
>

The device does use resonance. But if you've got a way to look for the
Higg's boson without big accelerators, you're a shoo-in for a nobel prize.
I'm honored to have argued with you.

But, as I said before, just saying "resonance" doesn't make something
possible. You're going to have to be specific, or there's no cigar.



>  That’s all… it’s certainly not meant to be a full blown explanation of
> exactly how to achieve that…
>

No. It's not an explanation at all. It's just a vague wish. It's like
saying we'll use zero-point energy, or pink unicorns, without any concept
of how exactly.


> ****
>
> ** **
>
> So how do particle accelerators use resonance to overcome electrostatic
> repulsion?
>

Again, accelerators are many orders of magnitude beyond breaching the
Coulomb barrier.

But, as one example, from the first sentence in wikipedia on cyclotrons:

*"Ion cyclotron resonance* is a phenomenon related to the movement of
ions<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ions> in
a magnetic field <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field>. It is used
for accelerating ions in a cyclotron<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron>
,..."

Or in the article on particle accelerators:

"As the particles approach the speed of light the switching rate of the
electric fields becomes so high that they operate at microwave frequencies,
and so RF cavity resonators <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavity_resonator> are
used in higher energy machines instead of simple plates."

Basically, in any cyclic accelerator, the acceleration has to be in sync
(resonance) with the particle motion. Otherwise there's interference and
dissipation.

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