*IMHO, we have been correctly told by DGT that their LENR process is a complex one comprised of many related and interconnected but separable sub-processes which when combined together produce heat without the production of intense and long lasting radiation.*
* * *I believe that their cold fusion process includes one sub-process that removes or greatly lowers the coulomb barrier to allow various neighboring nucleons to come together in a wide assortment of ways to form new types of nuclei. This process not only produces radiation from the nuclear fusion process but also from resulting newly created isotopes.* * * *The other major sub-process is one that overlays this fusion process and thermalizes this radiation production. This process involves the establishment and maintenance of a quantum mechanical coherent environment within in the nuclear active population of nuclei.* * * *What I am saying is that a large amount of radiation will be generated in a fusion system that is not coherent. * * * *A example of such a system that produces radiation and transmutation is the NanoSpire system. This system is not quantum mechanically coherent and as a result it will generated intense radiation from its intense fusion process. * * * *Rossi’s major concern was to eliminate or at least greatly mitigate any radiation produced by his system. He has pulled this off and this is a major accomplishment of both Rossi and DGT in they mostly produce heat and have suppressed radiation from there systems.* * * *Without this radiation suppression mechanism in place and operating AT ALL TIMES, a cold fusion system is of little use.* * * * * * * On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Joseph Hao <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: > ** > Hey Vortex Gang, > > My primary question motivating this post/query is to get a consensus on > whether the presence of radiation is a necessary prerequisite for LENR/Cold > Fusion Effects. IOW, is radiation ALWAYS present when an LENR/Cold Fusion > effect occurs. > > On one hand, there appears to be copious evidence that radiation of some > form or another is present during an LENR process. On the other hand, many > people, including many here in Vortex appears to brush aside the > evidence of radiation as circumstantial and unverified. What is > the consensus? Is Radiation always present? Is Radiation a foolproof > indication of an LENR process? > > This question is prompted after mulling over what Axil suggested to me a > few post back. In his suggestion to my experimental protocols, he > suggested I consider integrating a Cloud Chamber into my experiments. > Well, after thinking about it for a while and trying to come up with a > suitable way of integrating a "HOT" reactor inside a "COLD" cloud chamber; > I have come to the conclusion that it might be beyond my technical and > financial ability to do so. So, instead, I have come up with the second > best thing. I have been thinking of integrating my reactor, not into a > Cloud Chamber, but rather into an Ion Chamber design. Integrating a hot > reactor into an Ion chamber appears to be straightforward and simple. > > So, instead of using flow calorimetry to detect excess heat in an LENR > process, I will be using the Ion chamber to detect radiation. As far as I > know, there is no known chemical process that releases radiation, if the > reactants start from non-radioactive elements. So, if I detect radiation, > high enough to be detectable in a DIY Ion chamber, then that excess > radiation must be way above ambient, which means that there is only one > possible conclusion - that my reactor inside the Ion chamber is releasing > radiation. And since the reactor walls would be thick(er), most of the > detected radiation would not be Alphas and Betas, but rather higher energy > gammas. And if I am detecting copious gammas, then an LENR reaction must > be the source. I'm thinking this might be a more straightforward way of > detecting LENR reactions, rather than Heat calorimetry. > > What do you guys? Is this a good way to hunt for the LENR/Rossi process > and catalysts? > > >