David,

I don't think your test will work.

The 782 keV figure assumes no additional energy is lost in producing
neutrons.  Second, you have to assume you can get the process to work in
Be.

The cooling effect (albeit totally infinitesimal) should occur if you use
a stream of super-cooled neutrons.  But, why couldn't you just look for
9Be to 10Be conversion directly which should happen quickly?

David Roberson wrote:
>
> I have been following the discussion about nuclear cooling and I think I
> see another direct way it can be achieved if the W&L process is real.  I
> have my doubts as to whether or not that is true, but if it is then I
> think the following might occur.
>  We first start with a system that includes a proton, electron and a
> Beryllium 9 atom.  We use a W&L process to make a neutron which takes
> 781.915 keV.  Of course it requires a lot of metal to actually have a W&L
> process perform, but I have broken it into the least parts to make the
> cooling process stand out.
> Now, this low momentum neutron can find its way into the nucleus of the
> Be9 atom freely and binds there.  At this point we have an unstable
> isotope Beryllium 10 which eventually beta decays (1.51 * 10 ^6 years)
> into Boron 10 which is stable.  The electron emitted by the decay carries
> 202.63 keV while an electron antineutrino escapes with 353.43 KeV of
> energy.  The escaping neutrino carries off a significant amount of the
> energy and would be extremely difficult to capture and return to the
> system.
> The final tally is that we put 781.915 keV + 353.43 keV = 1135.385 keV
> into the system but appear to only see 202.63 keV of heating energy
> returned.  It is interesting to note that the neutron energy is held
> tightly within the Be9 nucleus until the decay occurs so heat is
> immediately absorbed from the test.  This process would definitely do a
> great job of cooling that far exceeds chemical methods if a better subject
> metal is chosen.
> I chose this simple case for demonstration purposes and I realize that a
> million years is a long time, but the effect should be real for other
> metals with shorter time constants.  In this particular example it appears
> advantageous for the neutron to be held by the nuclei for a long period
> before the decay.
> Perhaps a test of the W&L type of process can be constructed by choosing
> the appropriate metal to use for the test and then measure the cooling.
> The test would be capable of determining whether or not the neutrons were
> formed by that process.  If no neutrons are formed, then the entire theory
> would be suspect.
> What do you guys think?
> Dave
>


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