For the convenience of our readership at vortex I will post a rebuttal to Dr, Feynman's account*.*
*http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html* Feynman's Mistakes and the Recovery But at the public meeting the next month at which the fatality occurred (see the local newspaper account of the fatality and injuries-p. 30) was Caltech physicist Richard P. Feynman (1918-1988), who had worked on the Manhattan atomic bomb project in World War II. Before even arriving at the demonstration, Feynman assumed that the Papp engine, whose operation he was about to witness, had to be part of an elaborate hoax. We know this because he recounted his reactions during the episode in his widely circulated internet account touted by the "skeptic" community (see "Mr. Papf's (sic) Perpetual Motion Machine," p. 29). But here is the central problem with Feynman's analysis (which has many other errors of fact and logic embedded in it): There was a court action against Feynman by Papp and his backer, Don Roser of Environetics, Inc., as a result of Feynman's inept attempt to disprove the Papp engine with his unauthorized pulling of an electric control-circuit wire that Feynman egregiously imagined had to be powering the engine. It was unfortunate for Feynman that the wire's gauge was far too thin even had there been a secret electric motor within the retrofit Volvo engine. Furthermore, as you will read, the engine kept running even after the flimsy wire was removed. Feynman asserted that Papp most likely had deliberately planned to blow up his own engine to avoid subsequent discovery of the "fraud"! And, Feynman acknowledges that there was an out-of-court settlement with Caltech. Surely, had there ever been the slightest piece of evidence that conventional explosives blew up the Papp engine that day, Caltech would most certainly not have had to settle. Papp would soon have been charged with manslaughter, no doubt, and Feynman would surely have cited this evidence publicly. He was not one to shrink from dramatic gestures. Caltech also had the motive and the means to skewer Papp with the kind of evidence that is routinely gathered by police departments and crime labs following explosion accidents. However, all records of the investigation into the accident appear to have vanished down some kind of a memory hole. I believe they exist somewhere, but we have not been able— yet— to obtain them. On June 29, 1998, Caltech's very helpful Associate Archivist, Shelley Erwin, faxed me: "Well, the mysterious affair with Mr. Papp/Papf continues to remain mysterious. I have found nothing in the Feynman papers that refers to it. Nor is there any obvious reference to Mr. Papp or the lawsuit in administrative or publicity papers from the time. We do not have a clippings file for the 1960s, so that is one type of resource I did not investigate. . .I think I have done all I can here, without any useful result. We would be interested to know how your search comes out— if indeed this is a true account. I wish I knew." I made more recent contact with various Caltech offices, which could not provide me with any records— not even its public information office had newsclips, and efforts to locate official accident reports in California have come up dry. Some of these may have been destroyed, according to some police departments contacted. After all, this is an accident that happened thirty-five years ago. But the point is that nowhere, so far, do we have any evidence that the explosion was a result of illicit explosives. Failing such direct evidence of hoax, the proved violence of the explosions— the November 1968 and the October 1968 ones— strongly point to the reality of the Papp process. But we also have the contemporary laboratory work that establishes convincing evidence— visual and by instrumentation— that noble gases can be made to explode and achieve over-unity. Heroic work on a shoestring budget over the past few years is recounted in broad scope by researchers Mark Hugo and Blair Jenness in Minnesota (p. 51). We hope to feature their work in greater depth in future issues. Heinz Klostermann of California, whom I met two years ago, has been of great assistance in assembling some of the information that went into this issue of Infinite Energy. On p. 55, he discusses his broad knowledge of many of the groups working in the U.S. in the past and today in the effort to recover the Papp engine technology. He has begun his own independent initiative. Cheers: Axil On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote: > At 05:05 PM 8/8/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > Feynman's account is at > http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/comments/papparticle2.html > Infinite Energy description : > http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html > Papp demonstrating his engine with a dynonometer : > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wZqDQ7Pjg > > > The video is discussed at : > http://hutchisoneffect.ca/Academy_Video%20of%20Jimmy%20Sabori%27s%20Papp%20Engine%20Variants%20-%20PESWiki.htm<http://hutchisoneffect.ca/Academy_Video%20of%20Jimmy%20Sabori's%20Papp%20Engine%20Variants%20-%20PESWiki.htm> > > New Energy Congress member, and science advisor to PES Network, Ken > Rauen<http://hutchisoneffect.ca/index.php/Congress:Member:Kenneth_M._Rauen>, > who has had extensive direct involvement with the Joseph Papp engine > technology, says that what is shown below as a working device is not > Sabori's work, but that of Joseph Papp, and that Sabori's work is not worth > chasing. He provides some background in who's who in the field, including > some developments that are imminent. >