On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Yep, it is speculation at this point. Do you have any idea as to how the > liquid behavior would generate the piston thrust? We need any new ideas out > there as we attempt to understand this device.
Consider a hydraulic piston. It works because a liquid is extremely incompressible. At the moment of the hypothetical phase transition from gas to liquid, the liquid finds itself under compression by the mass of the position, but since a liquid strongly resists any compression it pushes the piston. A plasma is often referred to as the 4th state of matter, so plasmas may have some liquid-like properties that don't occur in gases. > I am approaching the device from an unusual electric motor design. We know > that charged ions are in motion which will generate a magnetic field. I > also see evidence that the electrons will head toward the positive voltage > electrodes while the ions will go in reverse. The axial magnetic field will > cause both types of particles to rotate within the cylinder in opposite > directions. > > I am thinking that the collisions between the neutral atoms and the > circulating particles will lead to mass ionization. If LENR occurs due to > the ions and other factors, it will add energy to the mix which ultimately > does the external work. It is early in the understanding, but it has > possibilities. > > I visualize that the very rapidly changing magnetic field induces currents > in both the piston as well as the end cap in opposition. This process may > further enhance LENR by behaving as a form of pinch for the ions between the > two fields. The force that drives the piston would be supported by a > reaction force applied to the end cap of the cylinder. In my way of > thinking this would help explain why the ions are not pushed away from the > center of the reaction region as the piston accelerates away from them. > This process would by necessity require both the piston as well as the end > caps to be highly conductive. > > The process I have outlined is very speculative and I realize that, but if > the engine is to function at all and run warm, then it can not be any form > of normal heat engine since the efficiency of these is rather poor. The > efficiency of an electric motor is quite good and hence my push in that > direction. The Papp engine might actually be a form of electric motor that > uses LENR to generate linear motion efficiently. Lets hope for such a > process. harry
