Apple is probably secretly working on 'ifusion'.

Harry

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
<a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:
> We don't know what it is. When we do, maybe "resonant fusion?" "proton
> absorption?" BEC fusion"
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Jeff Berkowitz <pdx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's a question with many nuances. I generally agree with Jed about the
> realities and the regulatory issues.
>
> Yet at the same time, we have an example: the terminology change from NMR to
> MRI. It was significant from perspective of consumer acceptance, and
> therefore it was economically significant. If we believe LENR will be
> incorporated in consumer products, then words probably do matter.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 7:28 PM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I tend to agree with Axil, i think the nanopowder is a distraction if you
>> want to generate power.  Powder may be mainly good for transmutations and
>> maybe heat transfer.
>>
>> I think both a Papp type engine and possibly the Terrawatt Research
>> magnetic drive are an impulse/shock type drive with charge, compression and
>> magnetic alignment all repeated at high frequencies.  The Papp motor runs at
>> about 47 Hz and the Terrawatt unit shows data up to 20 Hz with a steep power
>> curve from there.  The Papp unit uses noble gasses and the terrawatt
>> magnetic oscillator just has an air gap between rotating magnetics.
>>
>> There must be an issue though (besides fraud which i do not believe).
>> Since the UL data for TWR was from 2008 it should not take that long for the
>> Terrawatt drive to make it to market.
>>
>> The think issue is either safety or reliability or both.  This may be that
>> the system will generate an UNGODLY amount of power at 100 or 150 Hz
>> destroying itself and those around it.  I also wonder what type of EMR
>> spectrum of emissions is generated during operation and whether that is
>> healthy.  Papp at some point seemed to give up either after the explosion
>> and somebody was killed or after he became ill with cancer.
>>
>> Patterson also seemed to give up on launching a product after his grandson
>> died that was helping him.
>>
>> This all seems very strange to me.  All of these systems seemed to have
>> the potential to transform the world and yet their development appears
>> delayed or halted.   Maybe I am making too much of it.  Jed might know some
>> of the history better.
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 31, 2012, Axil Axil wrote:
>>>
>>> We think we know what is going on.  Do we?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One must remain open.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree, being open minded is important.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's important to not permit the SCAMS of yesterday to effect the LENR
>>> systems of tomorrow.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The noble gas reaction that underpins the Papp engine is the most likely
>>> reaction that works and the most promising. It must receive priority in
>>> future LENR R&D funding.
>>>
>>> Cheers: Axil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <blush>
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget the crater in the floor in Salt Lake City and the explosion
>>>> in
>>>> Tadahiko Mizuno's experiment.  Key on "explosion" in the LENR-CANR.org
>>>> search window.
>>>>
>>>> We think we know what is going on.  Do we?
>>>>
>>>> One must remain open.
>>>>
>>>> T
>>>>
>>>
>

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