Please help me understand what is being suggested by these experiments.  Are 
they supposed to be based upon the belief that mechanical energy can be 
converted into electrical energy and then back into mechanical energy with a 
net gain?  If this is the expectation then it would violate the CoE which is 
not possible.   Show a source of energy that is being depleted and you will get 
a vote of confidence.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: MJ <feli...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:WITTS 3kW Generator Video


              

          Maybe using a water pump:
      
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-tXe_jnWIs
      
          Mark Jordan
      
      
      On 06-Dec-12 20:46, David Roberson wrote:
    
    
Brad, If you        place a large flywheel on the shaft, you will get a much 
slower        decay in speed.  Also, the efficiencies of the motor and the      
  generator directly impact the energy loss of the system.        

        
        
So, take an efficient generator and connect it to an          efficient motor 
while driving a large flywheel and it will          continue to turn for a long 
time.
        

        
        
Dave
          
          
          
-----Original            Message-----
            From: Brad Lowe <ecatbuil...@gmail.com>
            To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
            Sent: Thu, Dec 6, 2012 4:29 pm
            Subject: Re: [Vo]:WITTS 3kW Generator Video
            
            
              
              I can't find a very similar demo on youtube where a guy           
   ran a drill.. Looked like it was filmed in the Philippians              or 
but can't find it.. 
              
              Here is a video showing what should happen when you try to        
      power a motor with a generator:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl57y-c_bWc
              
              Goes dead pretty quickly.
              

                - Brad
                
                
                
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:17                  AM, Esa Ruoho 
<esaru...@gmail.com>                  wrote:
                  
                    
                      
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at                        7:44 PM, James Bowery 
<jabow...@gmail.com>                        wrote:                        
                          
The idea that WITTS is an on-going                            organization with 
200 years of history is                            bizarre.  While its 
reasonable to deride                            criticism of technological 
development on                            the basis of the engineer's religious 
                           beliefs, the claim that Nicola Tesla, and            
                prior scientists, were members of an                            
organization that exists to this day, but                            which has 
no  historical record other than                            the testimony of 
one man, has the ring of an                            MK-ULTRA op if not 
outright insanity.
                        
                      
                      
                    
                    
Yeah, this is the part that I don't really care                      about. I 
mean, when I spoke with them for a few                      hours on the phone, 
they said something similar to                      Faraday and Maxwell having 
been involved in this                      or that. I don't understand the 
reason for saying                      something like that, but I don't 
consider it to be                      any reason to not fund them, they have 
their own                      reasons for it. 
                    

                    
                    
I don't know if it's a kind of "we have 15 to                      45 books" 
kind of thing (when someone actually has                      8 or 10 books), 
or what's going on, but overall,                      the u.s. peeps have neat 
lotteries in there (or so                      we poor scandinavians are lead 
to misbelieve)                      ranging from 250 to 350 million dollars as 
a first                      prize so to throw 15 or 35 million to WITTS/Thrapp 
                     people would still leave a ton of funding for              
        other projects (such as Erik Dollard (who is on                      
Indiegogo) and John Hutchison (who is on                      Gofundme). And 
then pick up some paypal addresses                      for Tom Bearden, Dale 
Pond, Paul Pantone and so                      on. Call it risk-money or what 
you will, but it                      would surely sort out the wheat from the 
chaff                      very quickly - by allowing one to directly see how   
                   these people are progressing and what they do with           
           the money.
                    

                    
                  
                
                
              
            
                      
        
          
    
  
 

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