Well said.
Dennis, may I ask, since you may want to provide Les Case with a bit of the credit (posthumously) - are you using his original carbon-Pd powder and reactor, or your own version of it, or both ? I understand that you acquired his stuff - possibly since no one else was brave enough to venture into the premises :-) We probably should request that IE do another tribute to him someday, especially if your work supports his. Jones From: DJ Cravens Jed -interesting comment- As I have told you before I have a seebeck that is roughly 8 times as sensitive (based on V/watts) as Ed's and was made for a series of NRL experiments. But you seem to keep harping on that and your money connections. As usual your comments just set up straw men and are not well informed. Again you seem stuck in the: everyone's experiments should be done to prove the reality of CF and not to gather info for future applications. I personally think that running a load with a thermoelectic chip (if done long enough under load with no input) is good. You may wish to know that a seebeck is nothing but a bunch of thermoelectric chips and a volt meter (of no real load). Having stimulation or not depends on what you what to study. Dennis _____ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:10:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 days.. hurry up From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com DJ Cravens <djcrav...@hotmail.com> wrote: The current system I am working off of is at 0.25 to 1 W with no input. This is with about 25 grams of sample (density about 3 gm/ml - metal in C). This is in a heavy metal sphere with gas pressure generated in situ and sealed. The temperature is near room temp when not insulated. That sounds promising! However, I think it calls for a good calorimeter. One of Ed's Seebeck calorimeters would be ideal, or the Thermonetics Seebeck. 0.25 to 1 W is too small to measure by any other means with confidence. As I said, Arata tried to do it by crude methods and the thermoelectric chip driving the camera focus motor. I think it was on the 1 W scale. It was not convincing. He should have used a Seebeck. With a good calorimeter and a professional presentation, you could convince a lot of people with that, and probably get proper funding. Higher power densities can be reached by stimulation but at the expense of COP. Then stay away from that. Better to have zero power input, and simple calorimetry, in my opinion. - Jed