David, have you ever actually heated stainless steel. I suggest you
take a spoon from your collection in the kitchen and heat it to red
hot. You will find that the spoon will turn black but will not
ignite. If you keep heating to a higher temperature, it will soften
and bend, but will not ignite. So tell me, why would you suggest the
stainless in the Rossi device would ignite?
Ed Storms
On May 24, 2013, at 3:21 PM, David L Babcock wrote:
I have no idea what it would take to "ignite" stainless steel, but
this may be what happened. A breech occurred, air entered, steel
burned. Enough extra heat generated to melt the ceramic.
The chemical energy for this short event would be plenty, no need to
have NAEs still operable in liquid state!
Ol' Bab, who was as engineer...
On 5/24/2013 2:38 PM, Edmund Storms wrote:
Please people, stay in the real world. The description Alex gives
has no relationship to what has been described in the paper or to
what is possible. We have no way of knowing the melting point of
that material claim to melt. We have no way of knowing how much
melted. At the vary least, once the stainless steel container in
which the Ni was located formed a hole, the H2 would escape and the
nuclear reaction would stop. In addition, we do not know the
melting point of the Ni in the container because it was reacted
with a secret catalyst. In other words, we know nothing that would
support such speculations.
Ed Storms
On May 24, 2013, at 12:17 PM, David Roberson wrote:
Axil,
You pose some interesting questions. If what you suggest is true,
then this form of LENR would be a bulk effect.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test
The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo
has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us
important new things about the LENR reaction.
When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C.
The melting point of the ceramic used is in that temperature range.
We know that ceramic is used in the reactor and that the LENR
reaction can melt it. This is exciting.
At that temperature, the nickel powder and the AISI 310 steel has
long reached its melting point.
The LENR reaction must be able to function in a liquid metal
environment. The concept of an NAE supported in only solid
material must be discarded.
LENR must function in liquid and vapor.
Riddle me that one batman.
Collective, in other words, I will be awaiting your theories.
SNIP
