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Newsgroups: sci.space Path: gmd.de!xlink.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!magnesium.club.cc.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!j...@pnet01.cts.com From: j...@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Bowery) Subject: Who I am and why I support Big Science Message-ID: <c9dgae.1b...@cs.cmu.edu> X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest Sender: ne...@cs.cmu.edu Organization: [via International Space University] Original-Sender: i...@vacation.venari.cs.cmu.edu Distribution: sci Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1993 07:16:54 GMT Approved: bboard-news_gateway Lines: 138 There have been some questions about who I am and what my positions are. Here are the relevant details for sci.space readers: As chairman of the Coalition for Science and Commerce, I have, over the last 5 or so years, been the principle activist promoting the Launch Services Purchase Act of 1990 and the launch voucher provision of the 1992 NASA authorization. To preempt some noise: Allen Sherzer has yet to apologize to me for his repeated slanders in this forum 2 years ago, declaring that my contributions to the passage of the LSPA were insignificant compared to those of Glenn Reynolds, then chairman of the legislative committee of the National Space Society. However, during congressional hearings on space commercialization, the LSPA's sponsor, Congressman Packard, gave me a personal introduction (the only panelist out of over 10 to receive such an introduction) and my organization credit for passage of the LSPA. Congressman Packard did so with Glenn Reynolds sitting next to me on the same panel -- and he did not mention Glenn Reynolds or the NSS. This is in the Congressional Record and on video tape. Allen Sherzer's words are in the sci.space archives of late spring to early summer 1991. I encourage those with access to the sci.space archives to retrieve them and see exactly what Allen Sherzer said and the manner in which he said it. I've been involved in several other, as yet unsuccessful, legislative efforts to reform NASA, DoE (primarily fusion), NSF and DARPA. In so doing I've come across gross inefficiencies in technology development -- inefficiencies that some small high technology startups were ready to fill with technical advances of great economic and social import. The government agencies I just mentioned see these high technology startups, not as vital partners, but as deadly political threats to the credibility of those, within the agencies, that picked incorrect technical directions. These government-funded individuals drive funding away from those who would bring us critically needed technical advances -- rather than working with and help them. The dollars we spend on NASA, DoE, DARPA and NSF to promote technology are actually used to suppress this country's technology in a frighteningly effective manner. But when one looks at the political incentives of these institutions, one wonders how anyone could believe it to be otherwise. My first and most tragic experience in this area was George Koopman's statement to me, made in person just before his untimely death, that NASA had been relentlessly driving his suppliers and investors away from doing business with his company, AMROC. NASA appeared to reverse its behavior in a tokenistic manner just prior to Koopman's death. The first test of an AMROC booster, shortly thereafter, failed and AMROC was forced into capitulation with established aerospace firms. This pattern of hostile behavior from NASA, combined with the means, motive and opportunity, leave room for reasonable suspicions of murder against individuals within or funded by NASA. This is only one story and I wasn't even involved in trying to garner support for AMROC at that time. Other high technology companies I have had the privilege of working with have experienced similar hostilities from NASA, DoE, DARPA and NSF, and they experience these hostilities in proportion to the significance (political visibility) and viability of the technology they are pursuing. Congressional oversight committees which are supposed to put a stop to this sort of activity have no incentive to do so and efforts to get them to investigate are futile. Their only real incentive is to increase the bugets of those who they oversee and require political payback via hegemoney. This is why technology development programs become the worst possible way to invest the taxpayer's money -- worse even than monstrously expensive and unproductive production systems like space shuttles and space stations. In general, technology is not an objective product. I does not usually succeed or fail with respect to a well defined objective. Even if a test device explodes, it can be portrayed as an expected outcome of a test. A technology development program can always be declared a success -- and its obvious shortcomings attributed to "limited funding". The more important a potential technology, the more money can be thrown at a program proclaiming itself to be delivering that potential, without any political repercussions for lack of success. This would seem to present an irresistible opportunity for exploitation and fraud -- but it is worse than that. When enough time has elapsed, the individuals who exploit these situations find themselves confronted by "inventors in garages" (sometimes literally) who, working quietly, on the basis of real innovation and serendipity from other fields not suppressed during that period, are in a position to actually achieve the stated goals of the technology program on a budget and timescale that is frequently orders of magnitude lower than that anticipated by the managers of the government program. This is a prospect so terrifying to those working on the government-funded programs that a cohesive quasi-religious cult of denial develops around the mainline program as the inventors are, inevitably, treated as charlatans or even satan-spawn. Since these technologies are justifying large government programs, it is a safe bet that there are big economic paybacks foreseen from their successful development and application -- a fact that is not lost on the inventors. Inventors typically have to invest their lives on a long-shot, and are acutely aware of the role that profit plays in free enterprise, as the reward for risk-taking. Justifiably, they want to see some highly deserved rewards for their labors. They seek out private investors, who are generally leery of high-risk projects -- regardless of how great the profits might be. There are very few technically competent wealthy, due to profoundly destructive biases in our tax and legal systems and it takes hard-nosed technical competence and accurate imagination to discriminate between a pipe-dream and the next technology revolution. Thus it is relatively easy for the government-funded "technologist" to scare the technically illiterate investors away from the "crackpot" inventor. Since the government's money is under their control anyway, it is trivially easy to prevent taxpayer's money from filling the investment gap they, themselves, helped create. The space station, the space shuttle, the super conducting supercollider and other exceedingly large and centralized programs within the government take money away from government-funded technologists who are then forced to look for other sources of support. They then become much less likely to slander external inventors who may become their future employers, and may even become supportive of these inventors, both within and outside of government. Further, the very large and centralized programs are much more likely to fail and do so in such a way that the taxpayer can recognize as a betrayal of his trust. They are programs through which fraud is more easily exposed than vague "technology development" programs. This means the agencies responsible for technology suppression can be held to account for their fraud in these types of programs. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that political support of government big science is highly valuable because it helps bring down the entire system that suppresses development of critical technologies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Choose truth or peace, here and now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <gsantost...@gmail.com > wrote: > Why the space shuttle was technosocialist? > Confused. > Giovanni > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:05 AM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey! That technosocialist POS that set back progress in space by 3 >> decades was good for something after all! >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:43 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: >> >>> I agree! 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